Matt_In_NH Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, liverpoolkev said: Whaley didn't draft EJ; Butler did. If Whaley was still here we would have had Mahomes or Watson without giving away our better players. Think about that while inaccurate Josh bless us with his inaccurate passing. Butler or Nix?
NewEra Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: Trading him sends the message "this season means nothing, now go out there and play hurt, play to win, give it your all". Bad move. It doesn’t mean “this season means nothing”. I’m sure McBeane would see it as “Keep working hard to get better. We just added 1-2 pieces of the long term foundation by trading a 30 year old rb. The future is bright”
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 We can target Memphis RB Darrell Henderson with one of our 2nd's. Please take the time to watch that kid. Special player.
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, ctk232 said: Barring any unforeseen injury I'd agree - their division is wide open. But the chances of them beating the Saints or really any other NFC playoff team is unlikely. They might not even beat the Bears
Prickly Pete Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NewEra said: It doesn’t mean “this season means nothing”. I’m sure McBeane would see it as “Keep working hard to get better. We just added 1-2 pieces of the long term foundation by trading a 30 year old rb. The future is bright” Pfft. Yeah.. "bust up your body now, be disciplined now, stay focused now, because next year we're gonna have some pretty good rookies (who might even replace you)." Inspiring!!! Edited October 9, 2018 by OJ Tom
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Watkins90 said: While I would be sad to see McCoy go, I would be happy for him knowing he would have a shot at getting a Super Bowl ring. It'd probably be the right thing to do for him at this point. Delicia would just sue him for it
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: In a heart beat if I thought I had a chance to repeat....would you give a 2nd rounder for a SB? Yea, but do you GUARANTEE a SB by trading for McCoy? No. No you do not.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Two 1's (and Darby in exchange) ....Jason Peters?...he'd love to be a Bill again, right??.............
bkep32 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Here is my thought on this and it would be hard to pull off. But if looking to 2019. Trade Mccoy for a 2nd if you can get it, maybe couple 3rds and a 4th. Then in the off season we will have one of the highest salary caps availble and go after lev bell. You know he wont resign with the steelers and i honestly dont think they will move him this year.
GrizzReaper Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, bkep32 said: Here is my thought on this and it would be hard to pull off. But if looking to 2019. Trade Mccoy for a 2nd if you can get it, maybe couple 3rds and a 4th. Then in the off season we will have one of the highest salary caps availble and go after lev bell. You know he wont resign with the steelers and i honestly dont think they will move him this year. That would be nice... It briefs well. Get it done McBeane! Anything less will be considered a fail...
COTC Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Shady has so much baggage. For a 2nd and 3rd, no brainer.
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, ctk232 said: They have two second rounders and a bloated cap next season, which would put them in a more win now mindset, despite having the same record as the Bills oddly enough. Though to your second statement above, I'd have to agree that talks aren't extending at this point given the lack of updates. It seems like a trade now move for the Giants game. Unless Philly is just shopping around right now to see what they'd get before picking up another RB. To be honest, trading for Shady or Bell at this point, and with their cap situation next year, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense on their end. To be honest, if the Eagles give up a second and third for Shady and end up missing the playoffs anyway, it will be the Bills fleecing the Eagles in a trade 2.0. Not only that but with their cap issues next year I would think they want talented players on rookie deals as opposed to 30 year old RBs making 10 million. If that give up a 2 and keep McCoy for 11 games and possible playoff than cut him to save money it's a bad move. A 2nd for a 1 year rental isn't very sound.
Midwest1981 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: If (and it is a big if) the Bills were to make this move (say a 2nd and 3rd for Shady and a 5th) they should turn around and deal one of those picks. Send the 3rd to Denver for Demaryius Thomas. Then send Benjamin out and hopefully get that 5th back for him. Thomas will likely be released at the end of the season, anyway. Ostensibly his stats are fine but his issues with drops have continued into this year. And Denver deeply contemplated releasing him last year. Ultimately he'll be on the market this spring because Denver won't have him account for $17.53 million against the cap, not when Cameron Sutton can capably take his spot.
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Midwest1981 said: Thomas will likely be released at the end of the season, anyway. Ostensibly his stats are fine but his issues with drops have continued into this year. And Denver deeply contemplated releasing him last year. Ultimately he'll be on the market this spring because Denver won't have him account for $17.53 million against the cap, not when Cameron Sutton can capably take his spot. Unfortunately for the Bills though at this point, trading for him and his contract may be the only way to acquire him (or any decent WR). Edited October 9, 2018 by YoloinOhio
NewEra Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: Pfft. Yeah.. "bust up your body now, be disciplined now, stay focused now, because next year we're gonna have some pretty good rookies (who might even replace you)." Inspiring!!! It’s called a rebuild. You act as if it’s never been done before. It’s a business.
MDH Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, COTC said: Shady has so much baggage. For a 2nd and 3rd, no brainer. No kidding. I wouldn't think twice about taking a 2nd. Shady wasn't going to be on the Bills' roster next season as it is.
dubs Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, NewDayBills said: It would be a 3rd in title only, there would be mostly 4th round prospects available there, not worth it. Hahaha! What!?!? We already had this lesson.
Kirby Jackson Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Midwest1981 said: Thomas will likely be released at the end of the season, anyway. Ostensibly his stats are fine but his issues with drops have continued into this year. And Denver deeply contemplated releasing him last year. Ultimately he'll be on the market this spring because Denver won't have him account for $17.53 million against the cap, not when Cameron Sutton can capably take his spot. 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Unfortunately for the Bills though at this point, trading for him and his contract may be the only way to acquire him (or any decent WR). That is my thinking. Amari Cooper is the other name thrown around. I prefer Thomas. I also wonder if someone like Marvin Jones could be had? I guess it depends on whether or not they keep Tate. Jones and Golladay feels a little redundant.
BillsFan4 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, Augie said: No offense, but you are FAR more sentimental about this than I am. I’m not claiming to be “right”, but for the right price I’ll let almost anybody but a franchise QB go. It’s nice if the player feels good about it, but it is a business. I am leaning toward trading him for the right price (maybe a 2nd and a late pick?) that might turn into a starting OLineman who could be here for a decade, helping to win games long after Shady is retired. The reason we might get a premium for an expensive, aging running back is not due to any wrongs he suffered, but because the Eagles are over a barrel and are looking at a SB window that just might be closing. It’s just leverage, not a feel good story. My biggest concern would be how you sell that to our locker room. We’re not scoring a ton of points WITH him. Don’t get me wrong, I love him and agree he’s our best player, at least on offense. Belichick would certainly be listening. Move on a little too early, not too late. IMO . No offense taken. I admit that I am too sentimental at times. I get attached to Bills and Sabres players, and am always sad to see a guy go. I would never make it as a GM, that’s for sure! lol i can see both sides of this argument, probably because I have one foot on each side of the line... My brain says that this might be the best opportunity that the Bills will ever have to cash in on an aging Shady. And my heart says that I want to see McCoy retire as a Buffalo Bill. I will understand if they decide to trade Shady for a nice haul (less so if they only got a late 3rd or something like that). But I would be perfectly happy to just keep him, and even re-sign him after next year. As far as the locker room - I definitely worry how it would go over. I think a trade would have to be done “the right way”. That is one of the reasons why I said that I think you have to ask Shady what he wants. If he wants to stay and the Bills trade him anyway, I don’t see it going over well in the locker room, especially with him being a captain and leader. But if McCoy truly does want to go back to Philly, I think guys will be more understanding of a trade. I also worry about Josh Allen. He already has next to nothing on offense. McCoy is pretty much the only weapon that an opposing coordinator has to actually worry about. Does trading him hurt Allen’s development? He’s already in a less than ideal situation, to put it nicely... I’m glad I am not the one making these decisions... lol. 1
Prickly Pete Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, NewEra said: It’s called a rebuild. You act as if it’s never been done before. It’s a business. Oh, it's been done before.
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