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1 hour ago, PIZ said:

Besides picks or a pick, what would they have to offer?  OG?  C?  WR?  Maybe McDermott needs another DT?!?!?!?

 

 

 

Chance Warmack? Lane Johnson? Just pulling names off the top of my head. Don't think they have any WR worthwhile sadly. Not sure we could afford Alshon - depends on how the contracts play out if there were a trade.

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think the Eagles want Mr Right at RB, but they want him Right Now or they'll move on

You are correct, the Eagles don't have the luxury of waiting. When you get to the deadline that is where you look at Hughes and everyone else IMO. 

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6 minutes ago, Chemical said:

yeah but come on. We broke the drought. Super Bowl is all I care about now. That's not happening. The pick(s) we could get could be on a future super bowl contending online or WR corps. McCoy will be retired.

 

How about a winning culture? Perennial playoff teams can attract free agents and at cheaper prices too

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Eagles need to make the move asap. Before the season spirals further out of control.  Tough spot for the Bills, I'd hold out for the 2nd.  Is there any decent wrs we can trade a pick to obtain? 

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1 hour ago, liverpoolkev said:

Let him go for a 1st or 2nd 

 

There is no way we get a 1st but if we get a 2nd then make that trade right away. Don’t want to see McCoy go but that trade makes sense. 

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8 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

If you don't want a 3rd for Shady, you don't understand what we're trying to build. A 4th or later is when you can start to complain.

A 3rd would be extremely strong value for a 30 year old running back with an expensive contract.

A) His contract is actually quite reasonable. B) look at the 3rd round picks from last year and remember that Philly is still the odds on favorite to win that division meaning they'll draft no higher than 25th, which translates into picks 89-96 in round 3. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/draft.htm

 

Shaq Griffin and John Johnson are decent-to-good starters (both late 3rd rounders), but outside of Kareem Hunt (mid-3rd) and Alvin Kamara (early 3rd), there ain't much. My point is that the chances of the Bills striking gold in the third - or, more importantly, getting a player who will contribute more to the Bills than McCoy will the 27 games - is pretty low. 

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On draft day, everyone points to "the chart" to determine trade values.

Is there any such "chart" for trading top RB talent mid-season?

Or is this just all "value feel" and negotiation between two clubs?

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7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think the Eagles want Mr Right at RB, but they want him Right Now or they'll move on

That’s a game the Bills are more than willing to play since they aren’t the ones pursuing the trade. If eagles are still on line 1 on Oct 30, then you consider. If not, worst case scenario is you kept the guy you wanted to keep 

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1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

You are correct, the Eagles don't have the luxury of waiting. When you get to the deadline that is where you look at Hughes and everyone else IMO. 

Count me out on the wanting to unload Hughes train.  The guy has a year left on his contract after this season and he is balling.  Our defense looks good right now and we have the foundation for the future with White, Edmunds etc.  In my opinion we need to hold onto Hughes and try to find some pass rushing talent in a deep draft for that to take over for Hughes in a couple of years.  I wouldn't even mind adding a year to Hughes contract if he was interested.  If we trade Hughes not only do I think our defense suffers the rest of this season, but I think it could significantly hurt the defense next season as well.  Next season the Bills should be contenders to make the playoffs and trading Hughes would be a mistake.

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I’m not trading our captain for a 3rd round pick.

 

Shady has been a role model teammate and we finally gave him touches last week and he finally started to get into rhythm 

 

of corse he isn’t going to look good with 6 touches a game. He needs to feel the game out

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Just now, BillsEnthusiast said:

I would need someone like Nelson Agholor and a 3rd to even think about it. He's a good rookie that's done good things.

Agholor is in his 3rd year I thought 

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Agholor is in his 3rd year I thought 

 

thats either correct or close, he is def not a rookie for sure.  Had him on my ff team his rookie year and was a huge disappointment

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Mother #&^*&##@@!!!! If they make this trade I hope they do it after the game this Sunday... it will really suck to have dropped a bunch of cash traveling to Houston to watch a demoralized team rack up less than 100 yds total on offense.

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3 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

Count me out on the wanting to unload Hughes train.  The guy has a year left on his contract after this season and he is balling.  Our defense looks good right now and we have the foundation for the future with White, Edmunds etc.  In my opinion we need to hold onto Hughes and try to find some pass rushing talent in a deep draft for that to take over for Hughes in a couple of years.  I wouldn't even mind adding a year to Hughes contract if he was interested.  If we trade Hughes not only do I think our defense suffers the rest of this season, but I think it could significantly hurt the defense next season as well.  Next season the Bills should be contenders to make the playoffs and trading Hughes would be a mistake.

I don't want to derail this thread, but was just saying if things look bleak (which they should) come the trade deadline, that is where you look to sell - Hughes was simply an example of an aging player that we might be able to get some value out of it. Whether we should or not is another thread...

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1 hour ago, DFT said:

If Beane got a 3rd for Tyrod, we should expect a 2nd for Lesean, in my opinion.

Different scenarios though. Even though Mccoy is a way better football player than Tyrod

 

1. Tyrod is younger and way younger relative to their positions

2. QB is way more valued than a RB

3. RBs with high mileage and over 30 With a high cap hit are not worth a lot at all.

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4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Agholor is in his 3rd year I thought 

 

Correct, I meant to write that he was on his rookie deal. Class of 2015 I believe.

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3 minutes ago, transient said:

 it will really suck to have dropped a bunch of cash to watch a demoralized team rack up less than 100 yds total on offense.

 

Welcome to the last like 15 years of my season tickets.

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