Ittakestime Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Allen is who pretty much everyone (besides the Bills FO) thought he was. Not sure why people think he is just going to be good just because he is big, good arm, and was drafted high.
Fred Clause Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: I truly enjoy the hyperbole that other QBs would look the same if not worse in our offense. 1) Baker Mayfield is playing on arguably the worst team in NFL history who have Landry and a bunch of young unproven talent. 2) Sam Darnold was traded up for, but the Jets still finished with the sixth overall pick. They are not a quality team and Sam is playing extremely well for them. 3) Josh Rosen is on a team many have felt were worse than the Bills, and yet is playing very good ball. 10-25 he is playing awesome ?????
Fadingpain Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Cash said: Good article. Allen is straight-up bad right now. Will be interesting to see if he ends the season better than he is now. That is the entire story about him, and has been for a long time. He has never shown an ability to be successful at the NFL level and he does not show signs of it now either. Will that change? McBeane's jobs hang in the balance.
John from Riverside Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Allen is who pretty much everyone (besides the Bills FO) thought he was. Not sure why people think he is just going to be good just because he is big, good arm, and was drafted high. Not sure why ppl think he is gonna be bad auto either.....
oldmanfan Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, Fadingpain said: That is the entire story about him, and has been for a long time. He has never shown an ability to be successful at the NFL level and he does not show signs of it now either. Will that change? McBeane's jobs hang in the balance. 4 games. Team won 2. Let me say again, 4 games and won 2. And your comment is he has never (repeat: never) shown an ability to be successful at the NFL level. 4 games. Two vicotories. Honestly, just stop with this nonsense. 1 1
John from Riverside Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: That is the entire story about him, and has been for a long time. He has never shown an ability to be successful at the NFL level and he does not show signs of it now either. Will that change? McBeane's jobs hang in the balance. The Vikings game says hi....... 1
Ittakestime Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Not sure why ppl think he is gonna be bad auto either..... Because he was bad in college. Better chance he stays the same versus vastly improving.
dubs Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: That is the entire story about him, and has been for a long time. He has never shown an ability to be successful at the NFL level and he does not show signs of it now either. Will that change? McBeane's jobs hang in the balance. Ha! oh man, I have second hand embarrassment for you now. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: 4 games. Team won 2. Let me say again, 4 games and won 2. And your comment is he has never (repeat: never) shown an ability to be successful at the NFL level. 4 games. Two vicotories. Honestly, just stop with this nonsense. Come on. W-L record is the measure? Remember when Tim Tebow went 7-4 as a starting QB in 2011? Now Allen is far more talented than Tebow ever was, but don't try to refute that with wins and losses with so many other factors to be considered. 1
oldmanfan Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Come on. W-L record is the measure? Remember when Tim Tebow went 7-4 as a starting QB in 2011? Now Allen is far more talented than Tebow ever was, but don't try to refute that with wins and losses with so many other factors to be considered. They are one measure. He has had ups and downs as any rookie QB starting out has. The other 4 guys have ups and downs as well. I have no problem with objective analysis but this nonsense that he has no chance or has never shown the ability to play in the league is beyond ridiculous. It belies what anyone watching the games with even a hint of objectivity has seen. 2
RussellDopeland Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Oh look- another "Allen sucks" circle jerk. Maybe the mods should just pin a thread entitled "Allen is a bust" so we aren't subjected to these redundant threads and the crusaders that inhabit them. 2
John from Riverside Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Because he was bad in college. Better chance he stays the same versus vastly improving. And there are several reasons why for his bad numbers in college... Have we not been through all this? If he was a total liability he would not be leading this team.....and we would not be 2-3 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Come on. W-L record is the measure? Remember when Tim Tebow went 7-4 as a starting QB in 2011? Now Allen is far more talented than Tebow ever was, but don't try to refute that with wins and losses with so many other factors to be considered. So are we saying Josh Allen is Tim Tebow?
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RussellDopeland said: Oh look- another "Allen sucks" circle jerk. Maybe the mods should just pin a thread entitled "Allen is a bust" so we aren't subjected to these redundant threads and the crusaders that inhabit them. The link in the OP isn't about that at all. 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: And there are several reasons why for his bad numbers in college... Have we not been through all this? If he was a total liability he would not be leading this team.....and we would not be 2-3 So are we saying Josh Allen is Tim Tebow? Read this again! "Now Allen is far more talented than Tebow ever was" Edited October 9, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
JoPar_v2 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 I mean, the guy’s analysis is okay, even if it is of the cherry-picked variety. Really don’t see the point of putting this out now, however. If the message is “hey, remember I told you Allen is raw and hasn’t shown the ability to do x, y and z” and follow it up with this 4 starts into his career, then well, okay I guess. Not sure even the most ardent Allen supporters would argue “oh he’ll be polished up by week 5 don’t worry.” 1 1
ddaryl Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Allen is a mystery wrapped up in an enigma. Nobody knows and everyone hopes, and we are still asking the same questions we were asking before and after they drafted him 1
Augie Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Gugny said: "Don't turn the ball over and force your opponent to go the entire field equals a win." Isn't this true for any team? That...and something about points. I forget the details, but the points matter, too. I’m just praying for progress throughout the season, and into next year. It’s all I can do. 1
TheElectricCompany Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ittakestime said: Not sure why people think he is just going to be good just because he is big, good arm, and was drafted high. Do not underestimate the appeal of potential. Edited October 9, 2018 by TheElectricCompany
LSHMEAB Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Come on. W-L record is the measure? Remember when Tim Tebow went 7-4 as a starting QB in 2011? Now Allen is far more talented than Tebow ever was, but don't try to refute that with wins and losses with so many other factors to be considered. Trent Edwards was 5-4 as a rookie. 1
Chris66 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: And there are several reasons why for his bad numbers in college... Have we not been through all this? If he was a total liability he would not be leading this team.....and we would not be 2-3 So are we saying Josh Allen is Tim Tebow? No tim tebow has a heisman and a nfl playoff win.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chris66 said: No tim tebow has a heisman and a nfl playoff win. Please! Tebow was an absolute horror show as an NFL QB who couldn't even make throws at the NFL level. Heisman doesn't have jack to do with the equation in the NFL. Edited October 9, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
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