ExiledInIllinois Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Augie said: The “ag” looks small there, as the actual financial impact of AGRICULTURE is enormous from the state of Florida. Do you ever eat tomatoes, oranges, strawberries or other natural items? They probably came from Florida. Exactly!!!
Augie Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, T&C said: Don't leave out bottled water, a big thing really... and the tomatoes down here have no flavor, they just look like tomatoes. There is a big cattle/cow industry down here. Tomatoes pretty much everywhere are imposters! I go to a farmers market every Saturday in season, and buy more tomatoes than I can eat just because they are almost real?
T&C Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Augie said: Tomatoes pretty much everywhere are imposters! I go to a farmers market every Saturday in season, and buy more tomatoes than I can eat just because they are almost real? Not sure what you mean here, but they are blah down here if commercially grown. Grow your own I say.
plenzmd1 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 freakin power went..the explosion of generators kicking on every house but mine is the worst sound ever...then power comes back on in like 5 minutes and my brain does a little dance at the money I saved by not having a whole home genrator!!! Suckers! 1
Augie Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, T&C said: Not sure what you mean here, but they are blah down here if commercially grown. Grow your own I say. Mass produced tomatoes are almost devoid of the taste and pleasure of an actual tomato. I’ve tried growing my own, and followed the advice of neighbors who have done so successfully, but struck out for 4-5 years, so I give up. (My previously successful neighbor also failed last time.) So I go the the farmers market with my Golden Retriever most Saturday mornings. It’s our standing outing, and I enjoy it. Just now, plenzmd1 said: freakin power went..the explosion of generators kicking on every house but mine is the worst sound ever...then power comes back on in like 5 minutes and my brain does a little dance at the money I saved by not having a whole home genrator!!! Suckers! You wouldn’t pay $25k for 3 minutes of inconvenience? How about 3 hours? Or 3 days? Or 3 weeks? Just kidding! REJOICE!!! 1
T&C Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Augie said: Mass produced tomatoes are almost devoid of the taste and pleasure of an actual tomato. I’ve tried growing my own, and followed the advice of neighbors who have done so successfully, but struck out for 4-5 years, so I give up. (My previously successful neighbor also failed last time.) So I go the the farmers market with my Golden Retriever most Saturday mornings. It’s our standing outing, and I enjoy it. If you are ever around a place that sells Bonnie's plants... walmart home depot lowes... get a German Queen tomato plant, best one out there imo.
Augie Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, T&C said: If you are ever around a place that sells Bonnie's plants... walmart home depot lowes... get a German Queen tomato plant, best one out there imo. Bugs. The bugs always kill me. Inside a pool cage, outside, no spray, HD spray, home made organic spray. I go the the Farmers Market. 1
Misterbluesky Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Augie said: I go the the Farmers Market. Just don't buy the Salmon.
plenzmd1 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, mead107 said: My power is on rained almost all day sissy rain up there in Central NY. We get mans rain here on RVA!!!!
boyst Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 23 hours ago, no name said: exaggerate much mac? you sound worse then the media circus those here have been complaining about. lives were lost and property damage that was expected from a cat 4. sure, media has become intolerable, but it's not cool to take light of the destruction mother nature laid on the panhandle of florida and what ever it has left in its trail. Maybe I should get started. You live at the coast. Had3 days to leave. Didn't. You died. That's my sad poem for those who did not listen to the warning or use common sense. But, beyond that, those whom passed: how many were a result of the hurricane vs bad decision making? Someone hiding in their bathroom for safety and a tree crushed their house vs trying to cross a street that was flooded and being swept away? 20 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but why is the climate changing as rapidly as it is? The article states that the scientific community believes unequivocally that the change is anthropogenic. It DOES matter because finding the root of the problem leads to the solution. Weather is not climate. But why should facts matter to hysteria???♂️
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 20 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but why is the climate changing as rapidly as it is? The article states that the scientific community believes unequivocally that the change is anthropogenic. It DOES matter because finding the root of the problem leads to the solution. There's little doubt climate change occurs. It's occurred over many cycles throughout history. This is a period of warming, which exacerbates the kind of violent weather patterns experienced lately. There's good reason to believe human activity, specifically deforestation (imo), has contributed to the rate of change. You cannot introduce a variable like -32,000,000 acres/year^10 of rainforest into an equation as complicated as the biosphere without expecting some amount of disturbance. 2
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 These storms have been always happening. Just more people flocking to coasts. Why give them an incentive to flock there.? Again, same happened with the land grab and bad farming practices prior to DustBowl years. There was a correction: People moved. They were forced to. Why are we enabling more bad practices and giving incentives to move to areas (for sake of argument) we are effing up with the climate. Okay... We are affecting the weather, now don't go there. Keep the numbers low. Yet, let's believe in some grand plan that we can magically fix everybody. Sorry, it's called a "sacrifice zone." Like living in a floodplain, fire zone, tornado alley, etc... Don't have stones to carry on, adapt... Don't expect everybody else to. Move, just like generations before did. Those generations packed up and left. They weren't giving an incentive to encourage more to come closer to the routine calamity. Again, not trying to be a Dick. Just see the writing on wall. 1
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: These storms have been always happening. Just more people flocking to coasts. Why give them an incentive to flock there.? Again, same happened with the land grab and bad farming practices prior to DustBowl years. There was a correction: People moved. They were forced to. Why are we enabling more bad practices and giving incentives to move to areas (for sake of argument) we are effing up with the climate. Okay... We are affecting the weather, now don't go there. Keep the numbers low. Yet, let's believe in some grand plan that we can magically fix everybody. Sorry, it's called a "sacrifice zone." Like living in a floodplain, fire zone, tornado alley, etc... Don't have stones to carry on, adapt... Don't expect everybody else to. Move, just like generations before did. Those generations packed up and left. They weren't giving an incentive to encourage more to come closer to the routine calamity. Again, not trying to be a Dick. Just see the writing on wall. Problem I see w/ this line of thinking (and I can't say I totally agree because I often feel similarly, but still...) is that you can take it to its logical conclusion regarding any number of issues, and it usually leads to absurdity. RE: you can't just stop treating illnesses because that would be 'enabling bad health'...laissez-faire attitudes are great in principle and feel good in practice but tend to not really work out in actuality, or have unintended consequences worse than the initial problem supposedly addressed. OK end political rant. Carry on gatekeeper
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Problem I see w/ this line of thinking (and I can't say I totally agree because I often feel similarly, but still...) is that you can take it to its logical conclusion regarding any number of issues, and it usually leads to absurdity. RE: you can't just stop treating illnesses because that would be 'enabling bad health'...laissez-faire attitudes are great in principle and feel good in practice but tend to not really work out in actuality, or have unintended consequences worse than the initial problem supposedly addressed. OK end political rant. Carry on gatekeeper Yeah, true. We we are talking sustainability here. People can't keep pouring into these places with incentive to do so. It would be like free farmland somebody in Oklahoma in 1933. Then subsidizing their failed crops. No. You leave. They are building structures on barrier islands. I mean come on. 1
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah, true. We we are talking sustainability here. People can't keep pouring into these places with incentive to do so. It would be like free farmland somebody in Oklahoma in 1933. Then subsidizing their failed crops. No. You leave. They are building structures on barrier islands. I mean come on. Exactly! What needs fixing are the policies and the folks who legislate/enact them, because in the end you unfortunately can't wholly rely on society's common sense and intuitiveness...need some sort of governing body to keep the peace and safety. Who knew, right? 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Maybe I should get started. You live at the coast. Had3 days to leave. Didn't. You died. That's my sad poem for those who did not listen to the warning or use common sense. But, beyond that, those whom passed: how many were a result of the hurricane vs bad decision making? Someone hiding in their bathroom for safety and a tree crushed their house vs trying to cross a street that was flooded and being swept away? thanks. this board is so fortunate to have a member the likes of you.
boyst Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, no name said: thanks. this board is so fortunate to have a member the likes of you. Many agree. I'd like to tell everyone I appreciate them and their sentiments. The messages I receive, the flowers and sexts (mostly Kirby & Buffalo Joe) really drive it home.❤️❤️❤️ 4 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: These storms have been always happening. Just more people flocking to coasts. Why give them an incentive to flock there.? Again, same happened with the land grab and bad farming practices prior to DustBowl years. There was a correction: People moved. They were forced to. Why are we enabling more bad practices and giving incentives to move to areas (for sake of argument) we are effing up with the climate. Okay... We are affecting the weather, now don't go there. Keep the numbers low. Yet, let's believe in some grand plan that we can magically fix everybody. Sorry, it's called a "sacrifice zone." Like living in a floodplain, fire zone, tornado alley, etc... Don't have stones to carry on, adapt... Don't expect everybody else to. Move, just like generations before did. Those generations packed up and left. They weren't giving an incentive to encourage more to come closer to the routine calamity. Again, not trying to be a Dick. Just see the writing on wall. Did you stop smoking crack for a while? Somehow I agree with a post you made. What gives? 1
Uncle Joe Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/11/2018 at 1:57 PM, row_33 said: But my real science friends insist everything is just molecules colliding and we are insignificant in this universe. One sure didn't feel that way after he caught his wife cheating on him..... On 10/11/2018 at 2:29 PM, RaoulDuke79 said: We're all just dust in the wind brother. To quote another band, Blues Travelers: Have you ever seen an atomLittle bits of everything floating byTake a good look at themCollectively they compose all you see including your eye
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 http://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/us/looting-stores-hurricane-michael.html
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