Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Does it really matter. So, it's warming. Nobody is denying that. Yes, but why is the climate changing as rapidly as it is? The article states that the scientific community believes unequivocally that the change is anthropogenic. It DOES matter because finding the root of the problem leads to the solution.
Augie Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but why is the climate changing as rapidly as it is? The article states that the scientific community believes unequivocally that the change is anthropogenic. It DOES matter because finding the root of the problem leads to the solution. But what if the root of the problem is too much hot air on message boards? THEN we have a dilemma!
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 But my real science friends insist everything is just molecules colliding and we are insignificant in this universe. One sure didn't feel that way after he caught his wife cheating on him..... 1
Misterbluesky Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, T&C said: Wonder if it has anything to do with the dredging of the lake. T/C,that's a good point,but if that's the case why would a place like Sturgeon Point still be high ? I'm not claiming anything was done the wrong way by the ACOE but it makes you wonder...also,what are we looking at..12..14 miles from the lake and river to Lancaster? Blossom was bone dry under the bridge by Bippert's...over by Harlem and Clintion is was a trickling stream IMO,it was the lack of rainfall and the hot summer temps that made the fishing holes run dry,as Gordio suggested.Also,.we never had much of a flooding issue after the winter melt last spring,meaning low water levels. Peace.
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, row_33 said: But my real science friends insist everything is just molecules colliding and we are insignificant in this universe. One sure didn't feel that way after he caught his wife cheating on him..... We're all just dust in the wind brother.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: I'm not a big fan of cheesy beach motels or 25 dollar,made in Bangladesh t shirts that turn into a ripaway after a few washes....you must have boyst62 on your mind again. I'm hip up here next to lake erie...and my federal tax dollars are worth pennies...have you seen the federal deficit.....peace I hear what You are putting down. Do they bail us out with snow removal? There has to be some natural resources coming out of there. Western Gulf is petrol-chem. How about cheap shrimp and seafood. Work for the clean-up money.
Boca BIlls Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 7 hours ago, row_33 said: yes, when people act like anything that might happen will be the apocalypse, it is harmful. Those types have always been around. Not harmful to anyone but other people just like them.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but why is the climate changing as rapidly as it is? The article states that the scientific community believes unequivocally that the change is anthropogenic. It DOES matter because finding the root of the problem leads to the solution. Better measuring instruments? Not that I believe. But, things changed as we went digital. Look @ Great Lakes ice coverage survey and how satellites have made that 10 times more accurate. Just throwing it out there. Data only goes back 100 years. Maybe we are on the warm cycle. Those 100 yeats are such miniscule sample. We are trying to create order out a lot of missing info. Edited October 11, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois 1
Misterbluesky Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I hear what You are putting down. Do they bail us out with snow removal? There has to be some natural resources coming out of there. Western Gulf is petrol-chem. How about cheap shrimp and seafood. Work for the clean-up money. Red Tide is bad in those waters as well....global warming.
flaz Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 I agree the the worlds temp is cyclic. Saying there is only 100 years of data is absolutely wrong. Science can accurately determine the temps on different parts of the globe within a degree or two, at a given location, by the flora and fauna living there. This can be done going back thousands of years and more. + 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Red Tide is bad in those waters as well....global warming. Red tide is naturally occurring and could be fueled by water temp, but its more likely that the blooms are being fueled by nutrient rich releases from Lake O down the Caloosahatchee
Misterbluesky Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, fl az fan said: I agree the the worlds temp is cyclic. Saying there is only 100 years of data is absolutely wrong. Science can accurately determine the temps on different parts of the globe within a degree or two, at a given location, by the flora and fauna living there. This can be done going back thousands of years and more. + Red tide is naturally occurring and could be fueled by water temp, but its more likely that the blooms are being fueled by nutrient rich releases from Lake O down the Caloosahatchee Ahhh...Red Tide is on the Atlantic Ocean side,as well.
Augie Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 There is a VERY longstanding global warming thread on my college hoops board. Both sides of the argument have very bright people. Both sides are convinced they are 100% correct, and the other side is full of imbeciles. I just check in for a chuckle every few months. That thread will be alive long after I’m gone, I suspect...and they’ll STILL be arguing. I’m do not take sides there, nor will I get into it here, but it amuses me. ?
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 One thing I'll say despite all the damage, is that it's great to live in America. The death toll in just about any other area of the world would be 10 if not 100 times what we've seen. 2
flaz Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 They think it has moved its way out of the gulf via the gulf stream. But who knows, The St Lucy gets the other third of the releases. We get two thirds
Augie Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Ahhh...Red Tide is on the Atlantic Ocean side,as well. Red Tide is NASTY! If you haven’t experienced it, it’s like chemical warfare on your eyes and nose. Then you add in the smell of all the dead fish for dessert.
flaz Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Augie said: Red Tide is NASTY! If you haven’t experienced it, it’s like chemical warfare on your eyes and nose. Then you add in the smell of all the dead fish for dessert. The blue/green algae that is growing in the St Lucy an Caloosahatchee is not much better. It grows in thick matts in the canals and other slow moving waters. The health issues have yet to be determined, but it has caused many people to leave the area. Symptoms are much the same as black mold for those with allergies or sensitivity to the stuff. This has been the worst year in my memory. The mats are loaded with dead vegetation and critters. The fly has been a pain in my ass this year like no other, you can see maggots and flies all over the crap 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 Who really cares. Move. People have two feet. Just like living in a flood plain. Who should pay for this? Of course we should all chip in. But how many times can we keep going to the well. Other States would love to help, but you can't get blood out of a stone. How about Florida institute an income tax to stem the population growth? People walked out of the Dust Bowls and moved to California. How about walking away from the coasts, the populations are not sustainable. Yeah... This sounds like a Richard response. But somebody has to speak the truth. Yet... Let's get everybody to think they are altering the climate so we can keep on doing unsustainable things like congregating on the coasts. YOU LIVE ON A COAST with all the consumer trappings of 2018. What do You think will happen. It's NOT just You, Your Wife and Dog living on the stilted Homestead with a row boat in the attic. I can't imagine what would happen to a place like Miami if it took a hit like this with only 3 days warning. There are simply geographical locations that aren't sustainable with the populations we have now. That My Friends was the "natural check" that was altered. But let's worry about climate change now! /rant LoL... I can only laugh, humans are so stupid!
flaz Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) Get off you high horse! What about the billions of dollars of damage done through the midwest from floods and tornadoes every year, earthquakes and fires in California. Wildfires throughout the country. Go smoke a bowl so your lunacy does not affect your drive back to the ditch Edited October 11, 2018 by fl az fan 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: There are simply geographical locations that aren't sustainable with the populations we have now. That My Friends was the "natural check" that was altered. But let's worry about climate change now! /rant LoL... I can only laugh, humans are so stupid! Yet you sit exiled where??? lolololololo. 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Yet you sit exiled where??? lolololololo. Exactly! Why I used My two feet to go somewhere things are geographically sustainable. I leave Buffalo in 1.5 hours. A days drive.
Recommended Posts