Soda Popinski Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Get the Tacoma. You can drive it for 3 years then sell it for what you paid for it. Nothing holds its value in the automotive world like a Tacoma. I've got a buddy with a colorado, was having intermittent issues with what they thought were fuel additives (he added none) turns out his torque converter went bad. Under warranty so no big deal, but I'd go with the Taco because they never seem to have issues, and I believe the oil filter is mounted up top by the radiator, easy access. 1
Seasons1992 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 9 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: This is the same Truck that the guys on Top gear did everything they could to destroy and couldn't. My favorite Top Gear episode of all time!
Luka Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Toyota. Not an impartial opinion though. Work at a Toyota dealer, have only owned Toyota's save for a couple Sentras in my youth. I will say though, the newer Colorados/Canyons have a waaayyyy nicer interior than the Tacomas. I find the newer Tacomas to be uncomfortable with a cramped cabin. We have one for a parts truck and I dred driving it. 11 hours ago, Augie said: I don’t know about the trucks, but I do love Toyotas. I prefer my Toyota to my wife’s Lexus. My son just got a new 4 Runner, the same as his GF drives. They love them! So you prefer your Toyota to your wife's Toyota. 1
BringBackFergy Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 All kidding aside Royale, I bought my Tundra in the fall of 2008. I was actually looking for a used Tacoma at the dealership and I asked the guy why there were so many Tundras sitting brand new. He told me with the high gas prices at the time (almost $4/gallon) people were buying Tacomas to save on gas (the difference in mileage was negligible) So I go a nice deal on a 2008 new Tundra toward the end of the model year and have been driving it ever since. Have had absolutely no problems with it (unlike when I owned Chevy trucks where I used to have dumb issues with glove boxes, door hinges, joints, etc....little things that pissed m off). The rear seat in the Tundra is larger for passengers, baby seats, etc and the engine is a beast if towing tractors, lumber, etc. The Tacoma is a nice truck but the Tundra maintains its value just as well with a slightly higher price tag (but you can feel the difference in comfort, engine, roominess, etc). @ExiledInIllinois is right...Toyotas keep going and although you may pay a little more now, it saves time not having little things pop up that need repair as int he case of Chevy (jmo). By the way, my Tundra was manufactured in Kentucky, so I technically "Bought American". 2
Soda Popinski Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 10 hours ago, LeGOATski said: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-chevrolet-colorado-lt-crew-cab-4wd-vs-2016-toyota-tacoma-trd-off-road-double-cab-4x4-comparison-test It really just comes down to driving both and seeing which one tickles your fancy. You can also look at GMC Canyon, which is the same truck as the Chevy, just with GMC styling. You'll likely get the best deal on the Nissan Frontier, since it's at the end of the current model. You should also look into the Honda Ridgeline. Not a "real truck", but it's the truck that 80% of truck drivers should actually drive. Actually the Ridgeline is now a real truck it's not a unibody anymore. It has a bed.
teef Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 13 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I’m going to buy a new truck...well used. Not looking for anything older than a 2015. The 2 that have caught my eye are the Chevy Colorado and the Toyota Tacoma....maybe a Frontier. What do you guys know about them an/or recommend? you strike me as more of a mini cooper kinda guy. maybe a volt.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: All kidding aside Royale, I bought my Tundra in the fall of 2008. I was actually looking for a used Tacoma at the dealership and I asked the guy why there were so many Tundras sitting brand new. He told me with the high gas prices at the time (almost $4/gallon) people were buying Tacomas to save on gas (the difference in mileage was negligible) So I go a nice deal on a 2008 new Tundra toward the end of the model year and have been driving it ever since. Have had absolutely no problems with it (unlike when I owned Chevy trucks where I used to have dumb issues with glove boxes, door hinges, joints, etc....little things that pissed m off). The rear seat in the Tundra is larger for passengers, baby seats, etc and the engine is a beast if towing tractors, lumber, etc. The Tacoma is a nice truck but the Tundra maintains its value just as well with a slightly higher price tag (but you can feel the difference in comfort, engine, roominess, etc). @ExiledInIllinois is right...Toyotas keep going and although you may pay a little more now, it saves time not having little things pop up that need repair as int he case of Chevy (jmo). By the way, my Tundra was manufactured in Kentucky, so I technically "Bought American". Tacomas were smaller, more compact before latest generation. You can get one with a 5' or 6' bed. Fit 5 people in double cab. Tundra I think is 6 w/3 in front on the split bucket/bench and double cab. I like the Toyota over the Nissan because it has more lifted ride height. The SR5's have always been appealing going back to 1980s. TRDs late 1990s. Classic look. But Royale... Joking NOT aside. Your single now. Go with the Tundra and fold down the middle front seat & have the lady scootch on over! That's why Fergy probably likes it... So when He goes riding with His two Bestie Homo Good Buddies, both can ride "shotgun." Not that there is anything wrong with that! Just not My cup of tea. I need a center console line of demarcation when riding with the Ladies. They can't keep their hands off of Me! LoL! LoL... @BringBackFergy Getting ready to pack up the brews in the refrigerated cooler and head East in the BluTaco! Maybe Hammer will park the cool Kids together! ? Edited October 4, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois 1
apuszczalowski Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Also, if you're looking for something 2015 or newer it may be worth looking at something new. The resale values of used Tacomas are through the roof, so the price difference may not be that much, plus you can get the Toyota care warranty which pretty much covers all labor and parts for the first 2 years. Also, if your not walking in paying cash and plan to finance, usually the rates are much better brand new then used. 51 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: All kidding aside Royale, I bought my Tundra in the fall of 2008. I was actually looking for a used Tacoma at the dealership and I asked the guy why there were so many Tundras sitting brand new. He told me with the high gas prices at the time (almost $4/gallon) people were buying Tacomas to save on gas (the difference in mileage was negligible) So I go a nice deal on a 2008 new Tundra toward the end of the model year and have been driving it ever since. Have had absolutely no problems with it (unlike when I owned Chevy trucks where I used to have dumb issues with glove boxes, door hinges, joints, etc....little things that pissed m off). The rear seat in the Tundra is larger for passengers, baby seats, etc and the engine is a beast if towing tractors, lumber, etc. The Tacoma is a nice truck but the Tundra maintains its value just as well with a slightly higher price tag (but you can feel the difference in comfort, engine, roominess, etc). @ExiledInIllinois is right...Toyotas keep going and although you may pay a little more now, it saves time not having little things pop up that need repair as int he case of Chevy (jmo). By the way, my Tundra was manufactured in Kentucky, so I technically "Bought American". It's funny but true how everyone thinks the smaller trucks are better with gas, or going with the smaller motor is better for gas. If you really look into it, it's usually negligable when you compare the full size v8 with a mid size v6. The motor has to be sized right for the vehicle. A v8 doesnt have to work as hard to pull the weight of a typical full size, the v6 in a mid size may have to work the same or more to pull that vehicle. I had a v6 single cab Dakota and a v8 four door Dakota and the only difference with gas was the v8 truck had a larger tank so it cost more to fill, but mileage wasnt that much worse. 1
Soda Popinski Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Also, if your not walking in paying cash and plan to finance, usually the rates are much better brand new then used. It's funny but true how everyone thinks the smaller trucks are better with gas, or going with the smaller motor is better for gas. If you really look into it, it's usually negligable when you compare the full size v8 with a mid size v6. The motor has to be sized right for the vehicle. A v8 doesnt have to work as hard to pull the weight of a typical full size, the v6 in a mid size may have to work the same or more to pull that vehicle. I had a v6 single cab Dakota and a v8 four door Dakota and the only difference with gas was the v8 truck had a larger tank so it cost more to fill, but mileage wasnt that much worse. My buddie's 4x4 silverado with the V8 gets around 21mpg average. My Ram 1500 with the Hemi gets right around 19 and can get up to 21 if I keep my foot out of it. I imagine the Colorado/Taco will get better, but significantly better I doubt it. 2-3 mpg isn't worth it to me I like the V8, I like the torque and ability to move when I want to move. I also like the room a full size gives me.
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 I think the old Tacos bring a pretty penny, just like My Old TJ because they simply don't make them that size anymore and are simple! That's why I am holding onto Jeep. Last of the dinosaurs! So much new electronic tech and crap on the new models. It's refreshing to get in Jeep and have to roll down windows by hand, not step on brake when starting engine... It's not "dummy proofed." My wife's BMW makes all kinds of crazy sounds when You open and close the doors... LoL... I am like Holy Moly, WHAT is going on in there, servos, louvers in the vents, timers, etc... WHO knows what circuitry is going around and around. CRAP! I open the door in reverse to see how I am parking, lean a little too far out and damn thing has a mind of it's own... Slams itself into park! It's like having the Better Half built right in... Like Her in passenger seat ain't bad enough. Now the damn German engineers are nagging Your azz... "Shut the door!" If I wanna run myself over, I will run myself over!
BringBackFergy Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Also, if your not walking in paying cash and plan to finance, usually the rates are much better brand new then used. It's funny but true how everyone thinks the smaller trucks are better with gas, or going with the smaller motor is better for gas. If you really look into it, it's usually negligable when you compare the full size v8 with a mid size v6. The motor has to be sized right for the vehicle. A v8 doesnt have to work as hard to pull the weight of a typical full size, the v6 in a mid size may have to work the same or more to pull that vehicle. I had a v6 single cab Dakota and a v8 four door Dakota and the only difference with gas was the v8 truck had a larger tank so it cost more to fill, but mileage wasnt that much worse. Be prepared for @ExiledInIllinois to give you a lesson on gas mileage and the history of the combustion engine....I'm in your corner. 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Soda Popinski said: My buddie's 4x4 silverado with the V8 gets around 21mpg average. My Ram 1500 with the Hemi gets right around 19 and can get up to 21 if I keep my foot out of it. I imagine the Colorado/Taco will get better, but significantly better I doubt it. 2-3 mpg isn't worth it to me I like the V8, I like the torque and ability to move when I want to move. I also like the room a full size gives me. Too big. Already got small driveway. Brother has the 1500 Ram w/Hemi... Nice... But too big. 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: Be prepared for @ExiledInIllinois to give you a lesson on gas mileage and the history of the combustion engine....I'm in your corner. Hit the tight trails, that full size truck might not make it between the two oak trees.
BringBackFergy Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 @ExiledInIllinois is feverishly searching Wikipedia and The Federal Register for test drive data between the V8 and V6 models between 208-2017. He will create a spreadsheet and announce his verdict very soon (with links and pics). 1
Soda Popinski Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Too big. Already got small driveway. Brother has the 1500 Ram w/Hemi... Nice... But too big. Hit the tight trails, that full size truck might not make it between the two oak trees. I also plan on pulling a boat with it, so i like the size for that too. I'd upgrade to an F250 Diesel if I could but I don't have that kind of cash. 1
BringBackFergy Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Hit the tight trails, that full size truck might not make it between the two oak trees. Who says I have to go BETWEEN anything?....I go OVER them bastards
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) And I can plate it with normal plates, under the limit. Which means I can drive on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago. Don't get caught with commercial plates on the LSD, they will give You a ticket! 7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Who says I have to go BETWEEN anything?....I go OVER them bastards Not that oak tree tough Guy! Bigger they are, the deeper they get stuck. And usually, a smaller recovery vehicle bails You out!? Back to the plate thing... Some places won't let You park commercial plated vehicles in town on street. Used to be even in driveway! Flossmoor, Illinois was infamous. Changed now. But check the ordinances. Still some in place about parking on street... 9 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: @ExiledInIllinois is feverishly searching Wikipedia and The Federal Register for test drive data between the V8 and V6 models between 208-2017. He will create a spreadsheet and announce his verdict very soon (with links and pics). Hell no! V8 is two more plugs, etc... means more maintenance, more $$$ eventually... Edited October 4, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Watch the news, and go with whatever the terrorists drive. 50 cal on roll bar is an option.
dpberr Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 In my truck shopping opinion: Stay away from Nissan trucks if you're in the northeast. There isn't a Frontier I've seen in SEPA that isn't rusting. I almost bought a Nissan Frontier myself but I don't think they hold up to the winters and our overzealous DOT salt spreaders. Chevy trucks have a softer ride and come better equipped. If you're going to use your truck for a daily commute on roads or you're going to be having kids in it, might be something to keep in mind. Toyota Tacomas have a stiffer ride. If you are going to be off-roading or participating in a gunfight in Afghanistan, or looking to trade it in after a couple years, might be something to keep in mind. (I've driven F-150s, Rangers, S-10, Silverados, Avalanches, RAMs, Dakotas, Tundras and Tacomas from the 70s to present with personal and work use, test drove the Colorado) 1
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