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I actually thought we could have lost by more ub seemed to be jacking up a lot of bad 3s when Perkins was the player that was the mismatch for them the guy that hurt cuse bad last year in a close one. But to me this was about their guards shutting down battle most of the game, Howard being his usual lazy with the basketball self, and free throws 

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It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been.  UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble.  This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament.  Too many bad losses already.  OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know.  The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong.  

 

I am impressed with UB this year.  They are going to be a tough out in March.  Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be.  Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed.  Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year.  That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds.  

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Didn't they change the seeding so that hosting city teams can't play in their arena unless or until they get to Quarterfinal rounds.

 

  On 12/19/2018 at 1:24 PM, Gordio said:

It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been.  UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble.  This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament.  Too many bad losses already.  OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know.  The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong.  

 

I am impressed with UB this year.  They are going to be a tough out in March.  Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be.  Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed.  Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year.  That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds.  

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  On 12/19/2018 at 1:24 PM, Gordio said:

It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been.  UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble.  This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament.  Too many bad losses already.  OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know.  The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong.  

 

I am impressed with UB this year.  They are going to be a tough out in March.  Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be.  Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed.  Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year.  That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds.  

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Meh. All Syracuse has to do is finish above .500 to stay "on the bubble." That's how the system works. The elite are given every break. If UB lost that game, or if they lose to Marquette, an at-large but could go out the window.

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  On 12/19/2018 at 1:37 PM, The Poojer said:

Didn't they change the seeding so that hosting city teams can't play in their arena unless or until they get to Quarterfinal rounds.

 

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The rule is they can't be the host team(either Canisius or Niagara would have to be the host team) & as long as they don't play at least half their games on that floor,  they could play their. 

  On 12/19/2018 at 1:50 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Meh. All Syracuse has to do is finish above .500 to stay "on the bubble." That's how the system works. The elite are given every break. If UB lost that game, or if they lose to Marquette, an at-large but could go out the window.

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Yeah they will be on the bubble but nothing will be a lock & it will be nervous come selection Sunday.  There were year I thought SU was out & they made it(final 4 year when they played UNC a few years ago) & years when I thought they were in and they missed.   Sure they got more leeway than a school like UB, they play a much tougher schedule.

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  On 12/19/2018 at 3:52 AM, eball said:

@Buffalo716 lighten up. You think we need a lesson in Syracuse basketball history vs. UB? You guys created a Syracuse thread and I’m here to crash it. UB is one of my two alma maters and I’ll gloat all I want!

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And we would expect you to behave in this fashion, so carry on being a turd and the rest of us will continue to ignore you.  Congrats.

 

 

  On 12/19/2018 at 1:24 PM, Gordio said:

It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been.  UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble.  This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament.  Too many bad losses already.  OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know.  The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong.  

 

I am impressed with UB this year.  They are going to be a tough out in March.  Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be.  Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed.  Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year.  That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds.  

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Yeah.  The better team certainly won.  Congrats to UB.  I also knew it was over when the outside shots started falling.  The way Cuse got out-rebounded, however, was appalling.

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  On 12/19/2018 at 5:53 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

The way Cuse got out-rebounded, however, was appalling.

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the more trash the long-distance shot is, the more likely it is grabbed by the shooting team

 

all you need is someone down low to get any piece of the ball to send it back out

 

 

 

 

the 3point takeover of the game has totally rewritten all rebounding thinking

 

 

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  On 12/19/2018 at 6:24 PM, row_33 said:

 

the more trash the long-distance shot is, the more likely it is grabbed by the shooting team

 

all you need is someone down low to get any piece of the ball to send it back out

 

 

 

 

the 3point takeover of the game has totally rewritten all rebounding thinking

 

 

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That’s an excuse for poor rebounding by our guards.  They need to be better.  No excuses.

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  On 12/19/2018 at 5:53 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Yeah.  The better team certainly won.  Congrats to UB.  I also knew it was over when the outside shots started falling.  The way Cuse got out-rebounded, however, was appalling.

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This is basically the story for every Syracuse loss.  Teams get outside shots against the zone and long rebounds because it is hard to box out when playing zone.  It's maddening to watch.

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  On 12/19/2018 at 6:58 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

FYI this guy is an AP voter who docks teams (like Syracuse) that never play road OOC games. He rates Buffalo as #5. 

 

 

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Thos guy is a TOOL and a FOOL. 

 

Who does Kansas play Away OOC? I’ll tell you now... NOBODY

 

SU played Oregon and Connecticut On Neutral sites AND went to Ohio State and beat a ranked Buckeyes team

 

thay dude can pound salt. His wife probably cheated on him with an SU player 

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Syracuse just has the worst looking offense I've seen, what is there identity?  Take turns going 1 on 1 which is the easiest thing in the world to defend. 

 

You could see they had more athletes than UB but UB knew what to do on offense and where to attack and move the ball around.  SU looks like 5 guys at the local YMCA..

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  On 12/19/2018 at 7:41 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Thos guy is a TOOL and a FOOL. 

 

Who does Kansas play Away OOC? I’ll tell you now... NOBODY

 

SU played Oregon and Connecticut On Neutral sites AND went to Ohio State and beat a ranked Buckeyes team

 

thay dude can pound salt. His wife probably cheated on him with an SU player 

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Kansas and Syracuse are 99% guaranteed to get a heck of a test in their conference schedules every season, showing very well what they are made of on a national scale

 

As well a lot of elite big schools play a lot of Nov/Dec matchups against each other

 

A Buffalo or Gonzaga or San Diego State can coast along with minimal honest challenge, minimal losses and inflation of honest standing in the nation

 

that's the system they want to hype up

 

 

 

 

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  On 12/19/2018 at 7:41 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Thos guy is a TOOL and a FOOL. 

 

Who does Kansas play Away OOC? I’ll tell you now... NOBODY

 

SU played Oregon and Connecticut On Neutral sites AND went to Ohio State and beat a ranked Buckeyes team

 

thay dude can pound salt. His wife probably cheated on him with an SU player 

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Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points.  Look at his ballot.

 

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-7

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  On 12/19/2018 at 8:15 PM, row_33 said:

 

Kansas and Syracuse are 99% guaranteed to get a heck of a test in their conference schedules every season, showing very well what they are made of on a national scale

 

As well a lot of elite big schools play a lot of Nov/Dec matchups against each other

 

A Buffalo or Gonzaga or San Diego State can coast along with minimal honest challenge, minimal losses and inflation of honest standing in the nation

 

that's the system they want to hype up

 

 

 

 

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Of course they still end up playing a tougher schedule than UB and all those mid majors

 

They play in the ACC and used to be in the big east

 

san Diego state wins 28 games a year because they are in a cake conference. SU winning 20-21 is easily as impressive and it’s still a crappy year for Boeheim 

  On 12/19/2018 at 8:21 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points.  Look at his ballot.

 

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/

  On 12/19/2018 at 8:21 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points.  Look at his ballot.

 

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-7

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My worst is confirmed. He is a tool.

 

Kansas wasn’t even there. This guy is a hack and a half.

 

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  On 12/19/2018 at 8:21 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points.  Look at his ballot.

 

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-7

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There is a reason this clown doesn’t have any part of the selection process.  Syracuse plays in the ACC.  They will still have a top 25 SOS regardless of who and where they play OOC.  

 

Nine wins in the ACC tends to get you in.  Not taking anything away from teams like Buffalo at all, but they HAVE to play a strong OOC slate because their conference opponents are trash.  That’s reality.

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  On 12/19/2018 at 8:28 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

There is a reason this clown doesn’t have any part of the selection process.  Syracuse plays in the ACC.  They will still have a top 25 SOS regardless of who and where they play OOC.  

 

Nine wins in the ACC tends to get you in.  Not taking anything away from teams like Buffalo at all, but they HAVE to play a strong OOC slate because their conference opponents are trash.  That’s reality.

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But don't you think this turns into a bit of a circle jerk? ACC teams are good because ACC teams are good, right?  Especially in basketball. mid-majors can put together teams that could compete with power conferences. But the elite conferences stay away because they can't risk getting beat, and they certainly won't leave home fr a game like that. 

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  On 12/19/2018 at 9:17 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

But don't you think this turns into a bit of a circle jerk? ACC teams are good because ACC teams are good, right?  Especially in basketball. mid-majors can put together teams that could compete with power conferences. But the elite conferences stay away because they can't risk getting beat, and they certainly won't leave home fr a game like that. 

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Key word is mid majors can put together teams that can COMPETE ...

 

Outside of this 5 year stretch for UB, they cannot compete in the ACC in a full schedule... no MAC school could

 

If SU went into the MAC , outside of these few years with UB... they would run the table and go undefeated every year in the MAC

 

very few mid majors have had the long term success to compete in a major conference year in and out 

 

its a different animal

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