Bray Wyatt Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 I actually thought we could have lost by more ub seemed to be jacking up a lot of bad 3s when Perkins was the player that was the mismatch for them the guy that hurt cuse bad last year in a close one. But to me this was about their guards shutting down battle most of the game, Howard being his usual lazy with the basketball self, and free throws Quote
The Poojer Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Embarrassing loss by Syracuse. 14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: SU needs this win. If they come out lame they will really have an uphill battle... Use that length and push UB past NBA range Quote
Gordio Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been. UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble. This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament. Too many bad losses already. OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know. The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong. I am impressed with UB this year. They are going to be a tough out in March. Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be. Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed. Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year. That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds. Quote
The Poojer Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Didn't they change the seeding so that hosting city teams can't play in their arena unless or until they get to Quarterfinal rounds. 13 minutes ago, Gordio said: It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been. UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble. This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament. Too many bad losses already. OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know. The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong. I am impressed with UB this year. They are going to be a tough out in March. Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be. Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed. Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year. That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gordio said: It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been. UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble. This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament. Too many bad losses already. OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know. The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong. I am impressed with UB this year. They are going to be a tough out in March. Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be. Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed. Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year. That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds. Meh. All Syracuse has to do is finish above .500 to stay "on the bubble." That's how the system works. The elite are given every break. If UB lost that game, or if they lose to Marquette, an at-large but could go out the window. Quote
Gordio Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, The Poojer said: Didn't they change the seeding so that hosting city teams can't play in their arena unless or until they get to Quarterfinal rounds. The rule is they can't be the host team(either Canisius or Niagara would have to be the host team) & as long as they don't play at least half their games on that floor, they could play their. 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Meh. All Syracuse has to do is finish above .500 to stay "on the bubble." That's how the system works. The elite are given every break. If UB lost that game, or if they lose to Marquette, an at-large but could go out the window. Yeah they will be on the bubble but nothing will be a lock & it will be nervous come selection Sunday. There were year I thought SU was out & they made it(final 4 year when they played UNC a few years ago) & years when I thought they were in and they missed. Sure they got more leeway than a school like UB, they play a much tougher schedule. 1 Quote
row_33 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Jimbo just sits there with the best seat in the house and loses all kinds of game Cuse should have easily won Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 13 hours ago, eball said: @Buffalo716 lighten up. You think we need a lesson in Syracuse basketball history vs. UB? You guys created a Syracuse thread and I’m here to crash it. UB is one of my two alma maters and I’ll gloat all I want! And we would expect you to behave in this fashion, so carry on being a turd and the rest of us will continue to ignore you. Congrats. 4 hours ago, Gordio said: It is all about matchups with Syracuse, always has been. UB is a good shooting team & when the threes started falling I knew Cuse was in trouble. This SU team is going to have an uphill battle making the tournament. Too many bad losses already. OD loss was horrible, Oregon, I don't know. The ACC looks top heavy again this year with FSU/UNC/Duke/Virginia all looking strong. I am impressed with UB this year. They are going to be a tough out in March. Beat Marquette Friday & I am not sure when their next loss will be. Getting ahead of myself but UB could end up with a top 4 seed. Too bad Buffalo isn't hosting the first weekend this year. That would be awesome if they got podded at the Arena for the first two rounds. Yeah. The better team certainly won. Congrats to UB. I also knew it was over when the outside shots started falling. The way Cuse got out-rebounded, however, was appalling. Quote
row_33 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: The way Cuse got out-rebounded, however, was appalling. the more trash the long-distance shot is, the more likely it is grabbed by the shooting team all you need is someone down low to get any piece of the ball to send it back out the 3point takeover of the game has totally rewritten all rebounding thinking Edited December 19, 2018 by row_33 1 Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, row_33 said: the more trash the long-distance shot is, the more likely it is grabbed by the shooting team all you need is someone down low to get any piece of the ball to send it back out the 3point takeover of the game has totally rewritten all rebounding thinking That’s an excuse for poor rebounding by our guards. They need to be better. No excuses. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 FYI this guy is an AP voter who docks teams (like Syracuse) that never play road OOC games. He rates Buffalo as #5. Quote
Andrew Son Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yeah. The better team certainly won. Congrats to UB. I also knew it was over when the outside shots started falling. The way Cuse got out-rebounded, however, was appalling. This is basically the story for every Syracuse loss. Teams get outside shots against the zone and long rebounds because it is hard to box out when playing zone. It's maddening to watch. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: FYI this guy is an AP voter who docks teams (like Syracuse) that never play road OOC games. He rates Buffalo as #5. Thos guy is a TOOL and a FOOL. Who does Kansas play Away OOC? I’ll tell you now... NOBODY SU played Oregon and Connecticut On Neutral sites AND went to Ohio State and beat a ranked Buckeyes team thay dude can pound salt. His wife probably cheated on him with an SU player 1 1 Quote
HeHateMe Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Syracuse just has the worst looking offense I've seen, what is there identity? Take turns going 1 on 1 which is the easiest thing in the world to defend. You could see they had more athletes than UB but UB knew what to do on offense and where to attack and move the ball around. SU looks like 5 guys at the local YMCA.. Quote
row_33 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Thos guy is a TOOL and a FOOL. Who does Kansas play Away OOC? I’ll tell you now... NOBODY SU played Oregon and Connecticut On Neutral sites AND went to Ohio State and beat a ranked Buckeyes team thay dude can pound salt. His wife probably cheated on him with an SU player Kansas and Syracuse are 99% guaranteed to get a heck of a test in their conference schedules every season, showing very well what they are made of on a national scale As well a lot of elite big schools play a lot of Nov/Dec matchups against each other A Buffalo or Gonzaga or San Diego State can coast along with minimal honest challenge, minimal losses and inflation of honest standing in the nation that's the system they want to hype up Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Thos guy is a TOOL and a FOOL. Who does Kansas play Away OOC? I’ll tell you now... NOBODY SU played Oregon and Connecticut On Neutral sites AND went to Ohio State and beat a ranked Buckeyes team thay dude can pound salt. His wife probably cheated on him with an SU player Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points. Look at his ballot. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-7 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: Kansas and Syracuse are 99% guaranteed to get a heck of a test in their conference schedules every season, showing very well what they are made of on a national scale As well a lot of elite big schools play a lot of Nov/Dec matchups against each other A Buffalo or Gonzaga or San Diego State can coast along with minimal honest challenge, minimal losses and inflation of honest standing in the nation that's the system they want to hype up Of course they still end up playing a tougher schedule than UB and all those mid majors They play in the ACC and used to be in the big east san Diego state wins 28 games a year because they are in a cake conference. SU winning 20-21 is easily as impressive and it’s still a crappy year for Boeheim 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points. Look at his ballot. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/ 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points. Look at his ballot. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-7 2018/week-7 My worst is confirmed. He is a tool. Kansas wasn’t even there. This guy is a hack and a half. Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well he doesn't think much of Kansas either. Any team that stays home for their OOC schedule he docks points. Look at his ballot. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-7 There is a reason this clown doesn’t have any part of the selection process. Syracuse plays in the ACC. They will still have a top 25 SOS regardless of who and where they play OOC. Nine wins in the ACC tends to get you in. Not taking anything away from teams like Buffalo at all, but they HAVE to play a strong OOC slate because their conference opponents are trash. That’s reality. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: There is a reason this clown doesn’t have any part of the selection process. Syracuse plays in the ACC. They will still have a top 25 SOS regardless of who and where they play OOC. Nine wins in the ACC tends to get you in. Not taking anything away from teams like Buffalo at all, but they HAVE to play a strong OOC slate because their conference opponents are trash. That’s reality. But don't you think this turns into a bit of a circle jerk? ACC teams are good because ACC teams are good, right? Especially in basketball. mid-majors can put together teams that could compete with power conferences. But the elite conferences stay away because they can't risk getting beat, and they certainly won't leave home fr a game like that. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: But don't you think this turns into a bit of a circle jerk? ACC teams are good because ACC teams are good, right? Especially in basketball. mid-majors can put together teams that could compete with power conferences. But the elite conferences stay away because they can't risk getting beat, and they certainly won't leave home fr a game like that. Key word is mid majors can put together teams that can COMPETE ... Outside of this 5 year stretch for UB, they cannot compete in the ACC in a full schedule... no MAC school could If SU went into the MAC , outside of these few years with UB... they would run the table and go undefeated every year in the MAC very few mid majors have had the long term success to compete in a major conference year in and out its a different animal Quote
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