MTBill Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Given the whole quote - it makes sense. If you have players who don't participate wholeheartedly - strategy and talent don't matter. Teamwork makes the dream work - and that requires you to buy in and participate fully. People who want to live on an island and only show up when they want to just does not work. 4 1
Roundybout Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN BACK SEAN Edited October 3, 2018 by BillsEnthusiast 4 1
KD in CA Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Peter Drucker would disagree with the hordes of hot takes in this thread.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, MTBill said: Given the whole quote - it makes sense. If you have players who don't participate wholeheartedly - strategy and talent don't matter. Teamwork makes the dream work - and that requires you to buy in and participate fully. People who want to live on an island and only show up when they want to just does not work. Even in the greater context of the full quote, I find this troubling: "The culture, to me, trumps strategy. That's what I believe in wholeheartedly." 2
LSHMEAB Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 I never really understood why "choir boy" was synonymous with virtue. I'm sure there's plenty of bad apples who once sang in a group.
stony Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: At least post the whole quote, idiots Funny, because it's just as stupid. 1
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: At least post the whole quote, idiots I was going to mention that part of the quote, but then we wouldn't have a controversial quote to stir the pot and rile up fans now would we??
MTBill Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Even in the greater context of the full quote, I find this troubling: "The culture, to me, trumps strategy. That's what I believe in wholeheartedly." I believe the thing is - if you have a player who is not buying in to the culture - not giving his 100%, it does not matter what strategy you have - it won't work with this player. I agree with that statement. If the comment is that you cannot have strategy - then I completely disagree with his statement. I just believe given the full context - his meaning is that you have to have players who buy in to the philosophy and are actively participating in the strategy. Does that make sense? 1
jahnyc Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) Does there have to be a relationship between culture and strategy? Can't you have both culture and strong/sophisticated strategy? I think the use of the word "trump" in this context is unfortunate and probably not what he meant. Edited October 3, 2018 by jahnyc
JoPar_v2 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Well, the greatest coach of all time seems to differ with your assessment there, Sean. May want to take some notes.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, MTBill said: I believe the thing is - if you have a player who is not buying in to the culture - not giving his 100%, it does not matter what strategy you have - it won't work with this player. I agree with that statement. If the comment is that you cannot have strategy - then I completely disagree with his statement. I just believe given the full context - his meaning is that you have to have players who buy in to the philosophy and are actively participating in the strategy. Does that make sense? Not buying it. Talented players win games in combination with the right strategy in a good culture. 1
GG Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 People are focusing on the wrong part of the quote. This is the nugget: Quote it means we have guys who love football and do things the right way for the most part"
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 We have a saying at work. It applies to the long run...i.e. over many years, not week to week. That is that Culture eats Strategy for breakfast. In the long run this is true. Strategies change week to week and year to year. A strong (or deficient) culture will be a more defining trait of success or failure in the long run. 4 3
greeneblitz Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 First, people and especially the WGR crowd mistake bringing in "choir boys" and getting players with good "football culture", I hear callers calling in and saying Brett Favre had bad character or if a guy has an dwi arrest he wouldn't be brought in because of the culture thing, both are completely false.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 Ask the Eagles, Rams, Chiefs, and the hated Patriots about strategy and talent. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Culture sure as hell does matter a lot. Last year was a big culture shift and it just so happened to be the year we broke the longest playoff drought in sports. Do you think the Patriots don't have a certain culture all the long timers have bought into? Just because culture might trump strategy, that doesn't mean strategy doesn't matter a lot, too.
4BillsintheBurgh Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, nucci said: you can't have a winning culture without winning It's a football culture, not a winning culture. Winning is not mentioned in the quote.
Buddy Hix Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Which completely explains how we ended up with Allen over Rosen...this culture and process BS is wearing thin with me.
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