Starr Almighty Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) What I love about this trade is that Cooper drops everything. Hence he will fit right in with his teammates https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Coopers-Drop-Rate-Ranks-Among-NFLs-Worst-479158283.html Edited October 3, 2018 by Starr Almighty 1
BarleyNY Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 BTW the deadline for 5th year options for 2019 has passed and the Raiders did pick up Cooper’s.
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....2019 salary is about the same money they balked at paying Watkins......... The Oakland Raiders announced April 23, 2018 they picked up the fifth-year option in Amari Cooper's rookie deal, which keeps the wide receiver under contract through the 2019 season. The option will be worth a little over $13.9 million, which is based on Cooper's draft position of No. 4 overall in 2015. I’m not sure they balked at paying him because of the money itself 1 hour ago, ticketssince61 said: "I think Gruden is ripe to trade Cooper, who is eligible for the 5th year option and then will want big money." We will have the same problem, so why make the trade? The Bills will have what problem? The Bills should pay him. I actually said overpay, given what it might take to get him to sign there. That’s what I’m saying. Edited October 3, 2018 by YoloinOhio
Pete Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 No thank you to Cooper. As stated, he drops the ball a lot. Before his good game last week, 6 out of previous 10 games he had fewer than 10 yards receiving. I do agree we should look to trade for we with experience. One more thing, I don’t like the idea of paying cooper after next season. Assuming we gave up picks for him, letting him walk after trading for him- that’s the **** the bills have been doing for decades.
Alphadawg7 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 I seriously doubt Gruden will support trading Cooper who he always gushes about. Then again, I never thought they would trade Mack, so who knows
billykay Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 4 hours ago, joesixpack said: That's one incredibly negative way of looking at it. Or you could look at it like it's an opportunity to pick up a player who's proven for a low-round pick. The only thing proven is that he was a good college WR. So far, as a pro, he has been a disappointment. I wouldn't waste any draft capital on him.
Ramza86 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 4 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: Like anything else, it depends on the cost. Amari Cooper in a Bills uni for a 4th and Shaq is a great idea....but I'm not sure that anything more than that is worth it. I like it for now and the future, but as always cost determines outcome. That said, I'd be surprised to see Gruden trade Cooper. For the amount of big drops hes had in his career.....id look elsewhere.
Philo Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 48 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I seriously doubt Gruden will support trading Cooper who he always gushes about. Then again, I never thought they would trade Mack, so who knows Well I would think nobody is safe if he was willing to trade Mack. Also, who doesn't Gruden gush about?
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Rentals, when you need a lot more? Nope!
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Rentals, when you need a lot more? Nope! I’m not proposing any rentals ...
blacklabel Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Clyde Smith said: I totally agree with this. Another receiver I also hope the Bills make a trade for is Laquon Treadwell from Minn. Underutilized and behind some really good receivers. Treadwell hasn't seen the field because he's struggled with drops since entering the league.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 I find it humorous that a number of WR complainers are in this very thread knocking what is a pretty good idea. Perhaps some of you could offer an alternative?
Tenhigh Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Did NO ONE read the damn OP? They just saw Cooper's name and said no thanks? LAZY.
LSHMEAB Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 After reading through this thread, I get the sense that no receiver is good enough for this team. Sammy Watkins wasn't good enough for this team. Robert Woods wasn't worth paying. Marquise Goodwin was made of glass. Amari Cooper drops some passes. The only guy really worth a damn at the position seems to be Brandon Reilly. 3
Matty the Dustmop Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: He drops the ball a l Personally I wouldn't go higher than a 4th and maybe Lawson. At the very least he gets separation and is dangerous with the ball in his hands. He would be great teamed up with brickhands Foster. We then would have qb who could throw the ball deep and no one to catch it.
snamsnoops Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, NewEra said: Not sure why that’s overreacting. I’d take Donald Jones and David Nelson over any of these guys. Yes, Donald Jones and David Nelson. you would need to bring back Fitzy then.. 54 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: After reading through this thread, I get the sense that no receiver is good enough for this team. Sammy Watkins wasn't good enough for this team. Robert Woods wasn't worth paying. Marquise Goodwin was made of glass. Amari Cooper drops some passes. The only guy really worth a damn at the position seems to be Brandon Reilly. They should bring him up... It couldnt get any worse.... 1
Freddie's Dead Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: What would I give up for Cooper? A 3rd in 2020, 4th in 2019, Shaq Lawson. I saw rumblings that a just a 4th or 5th would get it done for the Raiders, maybe I’m overvaluing him but i don’t buy it. Gruden has been whining about fnding a pass rusher, Shaq is someone who he will have the ability to plug in and determine if he’s a guy they want, and has a 5th year option they can use since they won’t have Cooper’s. Bills and Raiders would basically be swapping 2015/2016 1st rd draft picks. Thoughts? Cooper for Lawson would be a bigger fleece than Hughes for Sheppard. Git 'r' dun.
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Cooper for Lawson would be a bigger fleece than Hughes for Sheppard. Git 'r' dun. I was providing two draft picks ... definitely not thinking it would be a 1:1 player swap. The player was extra. Like the Jordan Matthews of the Ron Darby trade. Edited October 3, 2018 by YoloinOhio
The Jokeman Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Philo Beddoe said: I can get on board with this. Not sure exactly what his issue has been for Oakland...inconsistency? I know Carr likes throwing to him. I agree with the idea that all we could hope for in FA is a guy in that Tyler Boyd category and overpay for him too. Also agree that another WR should be added in 2nd-3rd round ideally. Boyd wouldn't be a horrible pick up in UFA, I'd also target Quincy Enuwa, Golden Tate and curious if Chris Hogan come back 21 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Cooper for Lawson would be a bigger fleece than Hughes for Sheppard. Git 'r' dun. Sweeten it and throw in Benjamin.
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