RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Eagles invested heavily in Trading up for Carson Wentz. Spent that off season building and Offensive Coaching Room...Wentz now thriving. Los Angeles Rams invested 1st Overall Pick in Jared Goff. Shortly after fired their Defensive Minded Head Coach (Jeff Fisher). Brought in young Offensive guy in Sean McVay...Goff now thriving. Chicago Bears invested heavily in trading up for Mitch Trubisky. Shortly after fired their Defensive Minded Head Coach (John Fox). Brought in Offensive Guy in Matt Nagy...Trubisky now thriving. Buffalo Bills and New York Jets invested heavily in trading up for Josh Allen and Sam Darnold. And they will do what with their DEFENSIVE MINDED HEAD COACHES after their Young QBs struggle in 2018??? Edited November 20, 2018 by RalphWilson'sNewWar Update 17 2
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 It’s certsinly an interesting thought. I’ve always banged the table for a young offensive minded coach. 3
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 2, 2018 Author Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: It’s certsinly an interesting thought. I’ve always banged the table for a young offensive minded coach. Kyle Shanahan? Was that closest we got to a young Offensive mind? That was what before Gailey or Marrone was hired?
jahnyc Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) The Daboll hire was critical to get right. It will be interesting to see if he can work well with Allen and help his development. Edited October 2, 2018 by jahnyc 5
TFBillsfan Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 I know it’s common sense, but it is absolutely critical the Bills acquiring offensive difference makers on offense thru the draft and FA this offseason. They have no excuses. It’s an offense based scoring league. While the defense isn’t top five it should be sufficient. Add a OLB and CB and everything else should be offensive based! Screw it up and McDermott’s time as the HC will be short! 5
ThunderGun Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 I could see them making a move for a young offensive minded coach... it might be a little early in his career, but I’ve said before DeFilippo is a guy that I would keep my eye on. I like McDermott as a person, I don’t see a Super Bowl winning coach in him, and that’s all that matters at the end of the day... His ceiling to me is maybe a Marvin Lewis, regular season success from time to time without the innovative/aggressive scheming and play calling to get the job done all the way. 3
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 2, 2018 Author Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said: I know it’s common sense, but it is absolutely critical the Bills acquiring offensive difference makers on offense thru the draft and FA this offseason. They have no excuses. It’s an offense based scoring league. While the defense isn’t top five it should be sufficient. Add a OLB and CB and everything else should be offensive based! Screw it up and McDermott’s time as the HC will be short! Would you say Allen is more important to the franchise then McDermott? if there is a pyramid (not counting owners) how does it start at the top and then work it’s wY down? 1.) Allen 2.) McDermott 3.) Bean 4.) White 5.) Edmunds and if you agree with Allen being hire up than McDermott than anything to help Allen is greater than any loyalty to McDermott?
Direhard Fan Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 No receivers. No line. Never planned on Allen being the guy this year. What did you expect? Loaded for next year with cap and picks. Plan or not? 4
Paulus Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Eagles invested heavily in Trading up for Carson Wentz. Spent that off season building and Offensive Coaching Room...Wentz now thriving. Los Angeles Rams invested 1st Overall Pick in Jared Goff. Shortly after fired their Defensive Minded Head Coach (Jeff Fisher). Brought in young Offensive guy in Sean McVay...Goff now thriving. Chicago Bears invested heavily in trading up for Mitch Trubisky. Shortly after fired their Defensive Minded Head Coach (John Fox). Brought in Offensive Guy in Matt Nagy...Trubisky now thriving. Buffalo Bills and New York Jets invested heavily in trading up for Josh Allen and Sam Darnold. And they will do what with their DEFENSIVE MINDED HEAD COACHES after their Young QBs struggle in 2018??? Lol, no.
Wayne Arnold Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 McDermott’s seat will get very hot if Allen continues looking like a train wreck. Likely won’t see 2019 if that’s the case. Too many bright young offensive football minds out there. 2
HappyDays Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 I think the bigger thing those franchises did is they spent a ton of money on offense in the QB's sophomore seasons. Presumably that is our plan for next year too. But it all depends on Allen developing. 4 4
racketmaster Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Good post. It appears that good defensive coordinators will become similar to the current running back, replaceable. -The NFL is about offense and defense and special teams are becoming less important as a result of rule changes. Expect this trend to continue as more rules that make game “safer” will help offense more than defense. And if that is the case, it would be wiser for an organization to hitch their wagon to an offensive “genius” rather than the defensive guru. Even if it is for the purpose of continuity. Players that fit the system will be developed and groomed over time and the system will remain in tact because the offensive leader will not leave the organization after any amount of success. That offensive coach will have plenty of defensive minds to choose from and the defensive side of the ball will not be as important anyway. On the other hand, if an organization tied themselves to a defensive coach, then there could be less continuity and talent on that side of the coaching staff. For example, if Dabol actually became a good coordinator he would be poached by another team. McDermott would either fill the position from the outside and risk losing continuity on the most important side of the ball or promote from within and risk not getting the most talented candidate for the most important side of the ball. It does not mean a defensive coach cannot work out, it just seems like they will have more challenges keeping top level coaching talent on the most important side of the ball. Edited October 2, 2018 by racketmaster 4 1
H2o Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 I think McDermott and Beane have a longer leash than previous regimes because of what they did last year. I believe the Pegs give them at least a 3rd year, if not even a 4th to do what they want to do first, unless 2019 is a complete disaster. 3
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 2, 2018 Author Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I think the bigger thing those franchises did is they spent a ton of money on offense in the QB's sophomore seasons. Presumably that is our plan for next year too. But it all depends on Allen developing. True the Bears did bring in Allen Robinson. How much they use him is debatable. (I know being hai frustrated fantasy owner) but Los Angeles...totally. Woods, Cooks. They loaded up
CEN-CAL17 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 They need to bring in Ken Dorsey. Get rid of the current QB coach. Let Dorsey soak in this system and if Daboll doesn’t pan out Dorsey can make it his own. 1
US Egg Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 "1 Trend in NFL does not bode well for Coach McDermott"..... .....yeah, getting blown out badly by opposing teams too regularly. 1 3 1
SCBills Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Who do we like off this list? Well be able to afford 4-5 of these guys, depending on what we do with Shady, assuming we move on from Benjamin and Clay. Everyone wants to look at Mahomes in his second year. Well.. these are guys, along with a potential elite OL or WR in the draft, that Allen could be playing with next year. *Some are no longer available but it gives you an idea. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2783459-an-early-look-at-the-2019-nfl-free-agent-class.amp.html Edited October 2, 2018 by SCBills 1
Wayne Arnold Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I think the bigger thing those franchises did is they spent a ton of money on offense in the QB's sophomore seasons. Presumably that is our plan for next year too. But it all depends on Allen developing. LA could have given Jeff Fisher all of those toys on offense and they still would have been mediocre and Goff would be labeled a bust. That’s how important Sean McVay has been. 4 4
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) You don't necessarily need an offensive minded head coach. You just need a good/great offensive mind in the room (OC). 2016 Falcons is a great example. Since Shanahan left, they've been short a cylinder on offense. The main issue there, though, is that your window shrinks because that guy will be a head coach very soon. Edited October 2, 2018 by Drunken Pygmy Goat 1
Cripple Creek Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Eagles invested heavily in Trading up for Carson Wentz. Spent that off season building and Offensive Coaching Room...Wentz now thriving. Los Angeles Rams invested 1st Overall Pick in Jared Goff. Shortly after fired their Defensive Minded Head Coach (Jeff Fisher). Brought in young Offensive guy in Sean McVay...Goff now thriving. Chicago Bears invested heavily in trading up for Mitch Trubisky. Shortly after fired their Defensive Minded Head Coach (John Fox). Brought in Offensive Guy in Matt Nagy...Trubisky now thriving. Buffalo Bills and New York Jets invested heavily in trading up for Josh Allen and Sam Darnold. And they will do what with their DEFENSIVE MINDED HEAD COACHES after their Young QBs struggle in 2018??? A good HC is a good HC is a good HC is a good HC. Offense, defense, special teams...it just don't matter. 3
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