RosenNOTchosen1 Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Bangarang said: Probably still not any good because we have little to no talent on offense and don’t have Reid scheming and calling plays. He'd still be excellent even in Buffalo IMO.
Fred Clause Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: He'd still be excellent even in Buffalo IMO. Ok, throwing the ball to who?
PIZ Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 The Bills got Allen and Edmunds in the first round this year. Couldn't they have taken Mahomes at 10 and then traded back into the first to get Tredavious White?
billsfan714 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 This game really comes down to play makers. That left handed throw for the first down,, the scrambles and td throws on the run. You can see it. He has IT. 1
Zerovoltz Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 .........We (the Chiefs) were down 10 into the 4th quarter at Denver, and we were the first team to win under those circumstances in 65 games there......he sucks. He threw 2 INTS vs JAcksonville AFTER we were up 30-7. ...and he threw 2 in New England, and we still hung 40 on them.... People have figure him out...YES, they have...you have to get pressure on him with your front 4, and give him confusing looks AND then you still need 35 points or more anyway because he rolls out of the pressure etc and makes long accurate throws anyway. ...He sucks... Alex Smith had the SAME weapons last year....except Watkins...the decoy....Smith is gone because he couldn't do what Mahomes is doing with the same talent around him. ....I would ask you NH fan....what would you need to see Mahomes do before you were impressed because leading the NFL in TD, QBR, with road wins at the Chargers, at the Broncos and at the Steelers and agains the no.1 defesne...hasn't impressed you so far.
NoSaint Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: .........We (the Chiefs) were down 10 into the 4th quarter at Denver, and we were the first team to win under those circumstances in 65 games there......he sucks. He threw 2 INTS vs JAcksonville AFTER we were up 30-7. ...and he threw 2 in New England, and we still hung 40 on them.... People have figure him out...YES, they have...you have to get pressure on him with your front 4, and give him confusing looks AND then you still need 35 points or more anyway because he rolls out of the pressure etc and makes long accurate throws anyway. ...He sucks... Alex Smith had the SAME weapons last year....except Watkins...the decoy....Smith is gone because he couldn't do what Mahomes is doing with the same talent around him. ....I would ask you NH fan....what would you need to see Mahomes do before you were impressed because leading the NFL in TD, QBR, with road wins at the Chargers, at the Broncos and at the Steelers and agains the no.1 defesne...hasn't impressed you so far. Hes checked a ton of boxes. Longevity is next and of course only comes with time. We’ve seen a ton of good months and even many good seasons. It’ll be a matter of consistency, growth, health and a little luck from here but it’s been a great start. 1
uticaclub Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 It’s hard to believe Josh Allen will ever produce like Mahomes is producing right now
SDS Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, uticaclub said: It’s hard to believe Josh Allen will ever produce like Mahomes is producing right now Who believed, at any point, that Mahomes would be producing like Majomes right now? 1
Zerovoltz Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, SDS said: Who believed, at any point, that Mahomes would be producing like Majomes right now? Me 1
RosenNOTchosen1 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, SDS said: Who believed, at any point, that Mahomes would be producing like Majomes right now? Lots of people. Even guys on WGR wanted him. Both Sal C. and Bulldog thought he'd be really good and wanted the Bills to draft him.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 16 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: "Hypothesis contrary to fact". I've lost track at how many times 2BD uses this ***** as gospel. Wait, you’re saying it’s fact he’d be great here?
JoPar_v2 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Wait, you’re saying it’s fact he’d be great here? I think he’s saying both positions are fallacies.
BillsFan1988 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 15 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: I’m just saying thinking Mahomes be the same in Buffalo as he is in KC is unrealistic. Different teams and different coaches.. he could be a bust here if they had drafted him.. who knows! I just try compare apples (talent around then) to apples is all. This is not true. The fact is Mahomes started a gm vs Denver on the road in week 17 . He played with his bkups vs the #1s on the Broncos . He ended up throwing for nearly 300 yds in less then 3 quarters of play. He also lead a late gm drive to win the gm after he was pulled midway threw the 3rd Quarter with the lead. Which KC gave away with the 3rd string QB playing. Im not saying Mahomes would be the machine he is now in KC with us. But he would definitly be turning heads and leading this team to a better record then we have right now. Btw had we drafted Mahomes maybe the direction McBeane goes in free agency and some of the trades we made would be different. Maybe we still have Sammy and a few other weapons. Maybe Mahomes would be lighting it up in Buffalo.
ALF Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 4 hours ago, SDS said: Who believed, at any point, that Mahomes would be producing like Mahomes right now? I give Jeffmajic a lot of credit for wanting to draft Mahomes. With the Bill's offense and coaching he would likely get injured and ruined here. Losing Richie and Wood was a game changer for the OL.
Bill from NYC Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 5 hours ago, SDS said: Who believed, at any point, that Mahomes would be producing like Majomes right now? Probably very few, but it still was not smart of Mr. Process to pass on him and Watson to trade down and take a corner. That, imro, is a blueprint for losing football games for many years.
GunnerBill Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Probably very few, but it still was not smart of Mr. Process to pass on him and Watson to trade down and take a corner. That, imro, is a blueprint for losing football games for many years. It was the typical Bills punt on a Quarterback strategy. They banked on the perceived wisdom that the 2018 class was much better than the 2017 class. That may still end up being true. But at the moment none of the 2018 guys has got close to the level of play Watson has demonstrated though his first 10 or 11 starts (and yes I know he sucked some on Sunday) or the level of play Mahomes has shown through his first 7 starts. 1
FearLess Price Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 A lot of us were pounding the lunch table for Mahomes. We jus didnt cry about it like jeffismagic.
Tenhigh Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Zerovotlz said: .........We (the Chiefs) were down 10 into the 4th quarter at Denver, and we were the first team to win under those circumstances in 65 games there......he sucks. He threw 2 INTS vs JAcksonville AFTER we were up 30-7. ...and he threw 2 in New England, and we still hung 40 on them.... People have figure him out...YES, they have...you have to get pressure on him with your front 4, and give him confusing looks AND then you still need 35 points or more anyway because he rolls out of the pressure etc and makes long accurate throws anyway. ...He sucks... Alex Smith had the SAME weapons last year....except Watkins...the decoy....Smith is gone because he couldn't do what Mahomes is doing with the same talent around him. ....I would ask you NH fan....what would you need to see Mahomes do before you were impressed because leading the NFL in TD, QBR, with road wins at the Chargers, at the Broncos and at the Steelers and agains the no.1 defesne...hasn't impressed you so far. Dear lord, now we have Chiefs and Pats fans arguing with each other on the Bill's board? Can't you two take this discussion somewhere more appropriate? Like maybe inside an active volcano?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, JoPar_v2 said: I think he’s saying both positions are fallacies. I'm not so sure
SDS Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 5 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said: Lots of people. Even guys on WGR wanted him. Both Sal C. and Bulldog thought he'd be really good and wanted the Bills to draft him. You need to reread the question.
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