Wyokid Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Take a deep breath and let logic sink in. He very well could be the next GOAT, but think about a couple of things. Does anybody really have extensive game film on him right now? No! Remember RGlll, Deshawn Watson, Jimmy G or any other QB that came out on fire. Where are they now? Back to the pack or out of the league. Mahomes is in the perfect situation. He is in a system that benefits young mobile QB’s and he has an All Pro tightend, running back and slot guy that can play anywhere. He is an ACL away from being RGlll. Is he playing ridiculous right now? Yes, but once teams have more film on him they will start exploiting his weaknesses. He may end up being a star for a long time but how many people jumped on the Dax bandwagon after year one and he is just another guy on a ****ty team now. People are to quick to judge and throw their new toy out for what is exciting in the moment. Breath and trust that the Bills did their homework and rebuilds take time. 1 1
Jay_Fixit Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Meh. Teams will figure him out. Denver held KC in check last night until Mahomes started escaping the pocket on every single drop back. Teams will plan for that. I still think he’ll come down to earth. Plus I’m glad the Bills don’t employ a QB with that hair. 1
aceman_16 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Seriously how the !@#$ did we not take this guy? This guy is !@#$ing sensational and might be the best quarterback in the league for YEARS to come. Not taking him is absolutely inexcusable and someone needs to be fired for this epic mistake. He was (Whaley).
B-Large Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Meh. Teams will figure him out. Denver held KC in check last night until Mahomes started escaping the pocket on every single drop back. Teams will plan for that. I still think he’ll come down to earth. Plus I’m glad the Bills don’t employ a QB with that hair. Teams will begin to make sure he can't roll out to his right, which is one of his strengths and will force him to pass effectively out of the pocket... he's really at his best on the run to his right side, that throw back across the grain is a killer. Denver had their heel on KC throat last night and then they got KeenHAM'ed.... Mahomes would struggle in Buffalo, just as Allen would be doing much better in KC... this argument is worse that retarded, KC is stacked a skill positions, Buffalo isn't fielding pro-level receivers. IT feel a little Dak Prescott to me, though Mahomes is more physically talented. Edited October 2, 2018 by B-Large
Boca BIlls Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Exactly right, dude. When you suck in preseason for three years, you're not ready. That's what made it impressive that after three years of development suddenly he turned it around the next preseason. He developed. As do many. Who are the best three QBs in the league right now? Brady, Rodgers and Brees? What do they have in common? Oh yeah, they all spent time on the bench developing and soaking it up before they got on the field. Nope it doesnt mean any of that. Rodgers would have been good from day one, hell only reason he was on the bench was b.c he had a HoF QB in front of him. Brees didnt even sit a full season, Brady would have been good front he beginning. Edited October 2, 2018 by Boca BIlls
Roundybout Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, KD in CA said: We're way overdue for a Whitner over Ngata thread. Did you know we took TJ Graham over Russell Wilson? 1
teef Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Did you know we took TJ Graham over Russell Wilson? we can maybe even touch on the maybin over orakpo debacle, (i think that's who the bills took instead).
Jay_Fixit Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, B-Large said: Teams will begin to make sure he can't roll out to his right, which is one of his strengths and will force him to pass effectively out of the pocket... he's really at his best on the run to his right side, that throw back across the grain is a killer. Denver had their heel on KC throat last night and then they got KeenHAM'ed.... Mahomes would struggle in Buffalo, just as Allen would be doing much better in KC... this argument is worse that retarded, KC is stacked a skill positions, Buffalo isn't fielding pro-level receivers. IT feel a little Dak Prescott to me, though Mahomes is more physically talented. That’s how I see it. I was in the same boat with Dak as well. Never a big fan, saying he’s nothing special and then his rookie season made me look like a FOOL!!! But things reverted to how I thought they would. I feel the same with Mahomes. However he’s in a position to succeed with all of the talent around him.
Iron Maiden Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Klaista2k said: I don't care about the supporting cast. He's still light years better than Allen. Now...that makes a lot of sense.....Having Kelce, Hunt, T.Hill..... has absolutely nothing to do with his success.....I'm sure he'd be the same QB with Clay, a beat up Shady , Jones and /or Holmes....
ngbills Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Elite Poster said: We needed to trade down and grab a DB. Trust the process. After we got rid of Darby... 1
PromoTheRobot Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 41 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It was You should watch it.
Steptide Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 The second kc called and asked about the trade, McDermott should've instantly said no and taken Mahomes. He comes from the Andy Reid tree right? Didn't the light bulb maybe go off in McDermotts head? Andy wants this guy, maybe we should grab him. 1
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 I love the reasoning often stated as : Brady , Rodgers, other great QB etc... they’ll make stars out of average WRs, a beer truck driver can play OL in front of them etc... Then : Great QB X wouldn’t be great in Buffalo, as he doesn’t have a perfect team around him, doesn’t have the Coach to make him great etc. Circular logic rules the day, apparently.
Rico Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Meh. Teams will figure him out. Denver held KC in check last night until Mahomes started escaping the pocket on every single drop back. Teams will plan for that. I still think he’ll come down to earth. Plus I’m glad the Bills don’t employ a QB with that hair. Yep. So !@#$ing ugly too.
djp14150 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 this is nuts.... T\You realize if they thought about QV they looked ahead at the class of 2018 in 2017 and said who might be better. Mahommes was raw coming from a place like Texas Tech made you question if he could do pro style offense with making tight throws. he went to the ideal situation with a well established offense. You could debare why Buffalo didn't trade with Houston instead of KC because they would have had pick at 4 and not had to trade anything. they would have had 4 and 12 and take the two players there without trades then still had the 2 picks in the 2nd and 2 in the 3rd --thus having 3 more prospects in the system then just 1 because 3 of 4 were traded.
Lurker Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Not taking him is absolutely inexcusable and someone needs to be fired for this epic mistake. Nah. No one needs to be fired. But you could step up and quit following the team. That would be a good faith effort to start making things happen at OBD... 1 1
Laughing Coffin Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Someone already was fired because they passed on Mahomes, despite Pegula wanting him badly. His name was Doug Whaley https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2707036-doug-whaley-passing-on-patrick-mahomes-rumored-to-be-final-straw-before-firing Edited October 2, 2018 by Laughing Coffin 1
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You should watch it. I checked out the analysis from YPP posted here. Perhaps you came to a different conclusion, but it wasn’t exactly kind to Allen’s performance.
LSHMEAB Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 I'm not gonna sift through the responses because this is a painful subject, but I'm sure there's lots of Andy Reid, Travis Kelce, bad offensive line, blah, blah, blah. Josh Allen would look exactly like Josh Allen if he was on Kansas City. It's okay to admit we made a mistake. Mahomes is a generational quarterback.
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Laughing Coffin said: Someone already was fired because they passed on Mahomes, despite Pegula wanting him badly. His name was Doug Whaley https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2707036-doug-whaley-passing-on-patrick-mahomes-rumored-to-be-final-straw-before-firing Well he was fired almost immediately after the draft. It would seem the owner could have forced this issue, not sure if I’m buying this one.
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