Ease up on Allen

[nedboy7]

The QB ain’t the problem.  We got some serious coaching issues. You get em teef 

Edited October 1, 2018 by nedboy7

[Ol Dirty B]

53 minutes ago, THE SLAMMER said:

LOL, Remember the Patience Poll?

 

78% said they are willing to give any rookie QB 2 years....

 

Looks like the 22% WANT IT NOW!!!

 

Must be the Millenniums

 

Thank me for your social security B word. 

 

And then write your meaningless awful observations and go on about the rockpile.

 

Old ass Bills fans can be pretty annoying. I'm tired of it. 

[teef]

1 minute ago, nedboy7 said:

The QB ain’t the problem.  We got some serious coaching issues. You get em teef 

i got this!

[Happy]

9 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

you  might be surprised how often it isn't....

 

 

 

Right, like our defensive "strategy" yesterday.  Put the pressure on the DBs to cover their WRs and hope the base front four can get to Rodgers.

[Philo]

1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Thank me for your social security B word. 

 

And then write your meaningless awful observations and go on about the rockpile.

 

Old ass Bills fans can be pretty annoying. I'm tired of it. 

 

You seem nice.

 

Why can't we be civil after a loss?

[Ol Dirty B]

Just now, Philo Beddoe said:

 

You seem nice.

 

Why can't we be civil after a loss?

 

Because that guy says nothing but stupid cliches. Let's blame millenials.... he's going to say it's all a joke but it's not.

 

 

[Philo]

2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Because that guy says nothing but stupid cliches. Let's blame millenials.... he's going to say it's all a joke but it's not.

 

 

 

I get you. I'm not defending the guy. I just don't like seeing fans turn on each other with this petty crap. 

[Boca BIlls]

Don't need to ease up on Allen... he is an adult in an adults business. 

[LSHMEAB]

8 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

What? Voicing legit concerns is one thing. Most of the negative comments are simply "he's a bust" "a joke" and whatnot, and then wait to jump on him when he has a bad game to prove "they're right".

 

His flaws are well known. So what remains to be seen, and only time can tell, is if how quickly he learns overall and shores up SOME of his flaws during the year.

So you only want to hear criticism with the caveat that he's raw and is very likely to develop into a high quality starting NFL QB?

 

What if he actually is a bust and the terrible play we're witnessing doesn't have a silver lining?

 

He's the most inaccurate QB in the NFL and I don't personally think that's a flaw that can be corrected. I bought into the footwork argument, etc. because I WANT TO BELIEVE. At this point, I'm beyond skeptical and I'm kind of tired of Allen apologists acting like that makes me any less of a fan.

[row_33]

20 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Right, like our defensive "strategy" yesterday.  Put the pressure on the DBs to cover their WRs and hope the base front four can get to Rodgers.

 

is there any point trying to make an elite QB "panic" and lose his cool when you can't deliver the rush?
 

 

[Ittakestime]

Once he starts to read a defense, I will give him a break, but just like at Wyoming, he creates his own problems because he has no idea what he is doing out there.

 

One of the most physically gifted athletes this league will ever see, but mentally there is a lot to be desired. 

 

He needs to learn protections and defense ASAP.

[teef]

2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

Once he starts to read a defense, I will give him a break, but just like at Wyoming, he creates his own problems because he has no idea what he is doing out there.

 

One of the most physically gifted athletes this league will ever see, but mentally there is a lot to be desired. 

 

He needs to learn protections and defense ASAP.

i thought you just said he would never be able to this?

Edited October 1, 2018 by teef

[Nuncha]

Rookies have bad games....it will happen frequently until he gets more experience.

1 hour ago, schoolhouserock said:

 

What do the other 10% want?

Peterman?

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

32 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Thank me for your social security B word. 

 

And then write your meaningless awful observations and go on about the rockpile.

 

Old ass Bills fans can be pretty annoying. I'm tired of it. 

 

are you one of those sensitive millennials? 

 

you seem like the sensitive type. as for the ss you claim you need to be thanked for. that's a real crock of ....

 

as for allen, if you based anything off the negativity that gets slung around this joint, he will never succeed and the team will remain in the cellar for the next 20 years.

 

you would think those who constantly wallow, moan and cry the blues over a team that they may never be happy with, would just find another sport/hobby or some other form of entertainment.  it's obvious they can't deal with the buffalo bills?

 

but that would take all the fun out of plastering this place with their negativity that they seem to get great pleasure from.

(oh I know, they have every right to B word and moan because well, they're season ticket holders and demand a better product)

Edited October 1, 2018 by no name

[Tenhigh]

29 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

you  might be surprised how often it isn't....

 

 

Rexy actually kept us in a game with Brady without pressure, remember that?

 

1 hour ago, schoolhouserock said:

 

What do the other 10% want?

 

Math lessons.

[vorpma]

39 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Nobody on a message board has the authority to make any decisions as to what the Bills do with Allen.

 

The attack posts aimed at members voicing their concerns about Allen is the real problem.

Give me a break!

29 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Thank me for your social security B word. 

 

And then write your meaningless awful observations and go on about the rockpile.

 

Old ass Bills fans can be pretty annoying. I'm tired of it. 

So can young ass fans who throw constant whining temper tantrums because they want and they want it now! And most of them somewhat uninformed or even ignorant about football - go the Mickey D's and order a Happy Meal! And God help them if they don't meet your time requirements!

[Da webster guy]

We look like a team that is last in active roster spending ($119M) and first by $53M in dead cap.   Nobody is even close to that.

 

We look like a team with a new OC, two surprise retired offensive linemen who were solid players, and a rookie qb with very limited weapons.

 

How can anyone expect we'd be more or less than we are now?  If anything, I'm optimistic because our two first round picks do not look like busts, and we may have added some late round starters with Harry, Ray Ray, Taron etc.   That's why I was so pumped about the Minnesota win, because it was FUN.  We have to look for the FUN inside the season, because it's not going to be fun most of the time.

 

I'm predicting that all four teams we've played so far this season are playoff teams this year. (assuming chargers get their defense together in time)

We will get a few more wins along the way, but ultimately it's about the $100M and 10 picks we have next year to shop with.   

 

Should have given up the farm for Khalil, who is the biggest game changer on either side of the ball in the NFL.   Considering we'll probably burn a first round pick on a pass rusher anyway, and he would have liked to play here, Beane missed the boat on that guy.  But our $100M nest egg is still intact, and we'll be ready to add some serious talent next year. 

 

 

 

[row_33]

been waiting for every year of 44 as a fan when Ferguson and Kelly weren't in their primes

 

what's another 2 or 12 years

 

 

[starrymessenger]

We will know a lot more about Allen's chances by the end of the year but it's unlikely we will have anywhere near a reliable final opinion.  It took Steve Young longer to pan out. Along these lines the timing of the rebuild is not ideal. If the Bills look mainly to the draft to shore up the O-line and WR group they will likely have to wait a year or two for these guys, even if top shelf prospects, to begin realizing their potential - see David DeCastro, Corey Davis, Mike Williams and many others). I expect they will be very aggressive in free agency.

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, BmarvB said:

Give the kid a break. He's a rookie who started in his third ever game in the NFL and it showed. He has no veteran mentor outside of Nate Peterman, an OC who and QB coach who never played the position before, WR's who can't get open to save their lives, a running game they're not even using to help him out, and let's not even discuss the O-line. Granted he's going to make his share of rookie mistakes (holding the ball too long, misfires, asinine decisions under pressure that lead to foolish INT's) but still, what does he really have to work with? Opposing DC's are going to throw everything including the kitchen sink at him to screw him up and throw him off his game.

 

It's going to be a brutal learning experience for him, but he can only get better from it.

 

What I find kinda funny is how ppl are up in arms over Allen's play

 

- Absolutely NOTHING around him

- He is playing like a rookie.....he will be up and down....he played well against the vikings....he got slaughtered against the next team

 

People want to draft a quarterback then dont want to go through the qb pains that come with that.......and you COMPOUND that by the fact that his protection and pass catcher's are sub par....they drop balls...they dont get open......I rewatched the game and I saw some posts wondering what josh was doing with his balls on the sideline....HE WAS THROWING THE BALL AWAY because either nobody was open or he didnt see anyone open.

 

It will come.....deep breaths......we have 10 draft picks (which will probably be early in the rounds) and 90 million in cap space AND our QB in place......patience bills brothers and sisters....patience.