Fadingpain Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Bangarang said: Right now our offense has no identity. It has no talent. It’s just out there going through the motions. I don’t understand what BB and McD are trying to build here. Neither do they. That's the problem.
stony Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 11 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Hmm? Let's see. Sean McVay as the innovative play designer on a team that has invested heavily in a strong supporting cast to help Goff shine. Please let this be the plan in 2019. It should have been the case last year. Instead, we stripped things down and burned an entry level year off Allen's rookie deal.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: Rex ruined a top 5 defense. McBeane has dismantled a top 10 offense. Like I've posted many times, none of this matters if Allen is a franchise QB. All the losses and wasted picks won't matter if he can play at a high level for years. McBeane will keep their jobs this year and will get 2019 to prove they know what they are doing. So far overall the roster is far worse under their control but with a few areas of upgrade - DB,S,PK. The dead money is on them. The cap space is them as well. If they spend and draft well it still won't matter if Allen is a bust. Allen was my top choice. I'm ok but not happy with his play so far. I'm worried about missing some guys who were open on short throws while running or with some pressure and the dumb INT before the half. But the line is so bad and the WR are so bad that it is near impossible to judge. ^^^^Bingo.
Nihilarian Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Bangarang said: Probably not. We hire HCs who think because it gets cold here in the winter our offense needs to be built around running the ball. This is not true. Although it should be because you need a balanced attack that can move the chains with the run or pass. You have to admit that under Marrone and Ryan the Bills made it to 9-7, 8-8 with one of the best run games in the league. The problem was they had a QB that wouldn't throw unless the receiver was wide open so that passing game never attained more than a mediocre attack ranking near last in passing. Daboll has had problems getting the offense going because they have been behind in points in 3 out of 4 games and in this last game the Packers stuffed the run on 2nd, 3rd and short and it went downhill from there. If you can't run the ball it puts everything on a rookie QB to carry the offense and that is never a good option. From what I understand the game plan for the Packers game was to give Shady McCoy 20-25 touches and he saw only 5 rushing attempts, 3 receptions. So the game plan went out the window and onto Josh Allen's shoulders.
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Probably not until they have a different GM and / or HC and OC.
stony Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: This is not true. Although it should be because you need a balanced attack that can move the chains with the run or pass. You have to admit that under Marrone and Ryan the Bills made it to 9-7, 8-8 with one of the best run games in the league. The problem was they had a QB that wouldn't throw unless the receiver was wide open so that passing game never attained more than a mediocre attack ranking near last in passing. Daboll has had problems getting the offense going because they have been behind in points in 3 out of 4 games and in this last game the Packers stuffed the run on 2nd, 3rd and short and it went downhill from there. If you can't run the ball it puts everything on a rookie QB to carry the offense and that is never a good option. From what I understand the game plan for the Packers game was to give Shady McCoy 20-25 touches and he saw only 5 rushing attempts, 3 receptions. So the game plan went out the window and onto Josh Allen's shoulders. It is. Our last three HCs all believed in a run first, ball control office. They bet (and likely still do) their jobs that a strong D and ball control offense is the way to win in Buffalo.
Elite Poster Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Just want to remind everyone Mahomes wasn't good enough for our dumbass coach. Imagine taking Mahomes and having ALL 6 of those picks from this year. That is how you turn a team around. Instead we got 7 foot tall bambi.
Nihilarian Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 54 minutes ago, stony said: It is. Our last three HCs all believed in a run first, ball control office. They bet (and likely still do) their jobs that a strong D and ball control offense is the way to win in Buffalo. Perhaps I left out what the Bills have been attempting to run this year. Ball control run game is about the furthest offense from what Daboll calls as he has been calling a pass first, quick strike offense that hasn't been working. The only reason the Bills had more rushing attempts then passing attempts last year was because the QB Taylor had 84 rush attempts with 427 yards rushing. I do believe that Dennison was attempting to pass more and Taylor just wouldn't throw it. Anyway, I really do want the Bills to run that ball control run first offense to take pressure off the rookie QB so he doesn't need to carry the offense all on his own. Marrone, Ryan, Lynn all had the right idea it's just they didn't have a decent QB. Before them Gailey ran a pass first spread offense and went 4-12, 6-10, 6-10 in doing so. He didn't have a QB either.
TheFunPolice Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Guys.... McDermott told us all it snows here.... Can Mahomes punt?
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is mostly what happens when you can’t tackle without a penalty flag and you can’t sack a QB without same. It’s funny, the NFL is doing everything it can to outlaw playing defense and scoring is up in a huge way as a result. Meanwhile , the Bills offense can barely manage an occasional first down.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 15 hours ago, Bangarang said: Probably not. We hire HCs who think because it gets cold here in the winter our offense needs to be built around running the ball. when we had a HC who thought our offense should be built around running the ball, we were 10th on pf or something like that
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 14 hours ago, Bangarang said: Right now our offense has no identity. It has no talent. It’s just out there going through the motions. I don’t understand what BB and McD are trying to build here. You have top understand though that this was Beanes 1st draft, to me the idea was to rid this roster of all underachievers and players who don't fit... (Dareus, Watkins, Ragland, Darby etc) , we will now have 80+M in cap space, to go along with more draft picks. Our OL would have looked quite different if not for both Wood/Incognito retirements, I think we'll get a very good idea what this regime is about after next season, good or bad.
Dadonkadonk Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Elite Poster said: Just want to remind everyone Mahomes wasn't good enough for our dumbass coach. Imagine taking Mahomes and having ALL 6 of those picks from this year. That is how you turn a team around. Instead we got 7 foot tall bambi. Well first of all they got the extra pick in the first round by trading down and not taking Mahomes. Second, drafting Mahomes doesn't bring Buffalo Andy Ried, Kelce, Hunt, and the other weapons they have. But your point is well taken. White looks like a star but perhaps they passed on a star QB. Time will tell.
Ol Dirty B Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 20 hours ago, dneveu said: Are we a running team? We're the 24th ranking rushing team. Well, he never said good.
WideRightRevenge Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 21 hours ago, Captain Murica said: This reason is part of the reason I wish the Bills would build a dome. It's not like the weather plays into our advantage seeing as most players come from the south. It would stop this non-sense we need to run the ball to be successful in Buffalo. Also, 7 out of the 20 games McBeane have under their belt in this regime, the Bills have lost by 20+ points. That' scary bad. Please no ... part of the history of the Bills is the weather .. indoor teams are panzies (see Detroit, Indy, Cowboys, Texans, Arizona)
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 22 hours ago, wppete said: Looks like we are stuck with McBean for a while. A few more years at the minimum. We have to except that. Not very confident they will build a true contender. We could use some serious upgrades in the OC department to maximize whatever supporting talent around Allen that there is. Someone else commented that it would not be a good look for McD to fire his 2nd OC in 4 games such that it probably wouldn't happen, but it also was not a good look to have to pull Peterman after a half of football (twice) after inserting him as the starter (twice), and yet, he did it for the good of the team, regardless of how it made him look. So I'm not convinced that McD isn't capable of pulling a plug here or there if he thinks that it's necessary regardless of his own ego. The bigger question is how does it affect his credibility with ownership as I'm sure he originally sold Daboll to Terry at the time of hire... 1
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