4_kidd_4 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 I’d prefer a coach that doesn’t care about playing nice or making friends, as opposed to faith based clap clap clap Opie on ‘roids. Just statin’. 1 1
golfball323 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Why would you want to take out Bortles? Usually he is the only reason the opponent is still in the game, if your getting beaten by a Blake Bortles offence, you should be more worried and angry at your defence.... very true, Re: Bortles. But at that point in time I would have sent somebody flying over the line just the same. I might just be deranged, though
LeGOATski Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 58 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I don't share the anger at Marrone; however, I don't care much for him on a personal level. One can be a good coach and still be an !@#hole. They are not mutually exclusive... Same here
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 It's the offenses job to score points. It's the defenses job to stop them. I hate when teams go into cruise control. If you don't want to be embarrassed do something about it. Good for Marrone.
Livinginthepast Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 When he does it for every TD up by 30+ pts on Sunday Night football like Bellichick did it vs us in that destruction in the Jauron era , then its a true Ahole move. This just minor dbag stuff compared to the Hoodie.
cba fan Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsRdue said: So what. Maybe he wanted to work on the 2pt conversions. Maybe he was running up the score. That's fine. There are tie-breakers based on point difference that can come back to haunt a team. You never know how a season will play out. Take what you can get every week. It's the opponents job to stop you. every time I hear of this being done. I can't help but think of the time Marinos Dolphins went for a meaningless two point conversion back in the day when the conversion just was implemented. Of course they ran it and the Dolphins RB had his knee bent backwards and I believe had a complete dislocation with ligament damage. Out for year and he was never the same again. Sad as hell.
Soda Popinski Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 I want to have reasons to hate on Marrone, but this really isn't one of them. You're up, you are going to win the game, might as well get in some 2 point conversion work in a live situation. Ehh, I don't hate it.
iinii Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Still bitter about not getting that Jets job? the chart says go for 2 if there is 4+ min to go, Petty McPettison Apparently
cba fan Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, iinii said: Apparently lol I thought his catch phrase was "obviously". Rex was "absolutely". 1
apuszczalowski Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said: I want to have reasons to hate on Marrone, but this really isn't one of them. You're up, you are going to win the game, might as well get in some 2 point conversion work in a live situation. Ehh, I don't hate it. Isnt it statistically more likely that an extra point will be good over completing a 2 point conversion? So technically by going for it with a lower chance of scoring, you are being nicer to the opponent and giving them a better chance of not running g up the score.....
Soda Popinski Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: Isnt it statistically more likely that an extra point will be good over completing a 2 point conversion? So technically by going for it with a lower chance of scoring, you are being nicer to the opponent and giving them a better chance of not running g up the score..... I don't know about all the optics of it, people want to say it was piling on, maybe it was, Marrone is kind of a DB. But in this instance, knowing that down the road he may need to get a 2pt conversion to win a game, I say get some reps in live action while you can. But I"m looking at it from that standpoint only. Not the emotional lenses most people are probably correctly looking through. Maybe it's a big eff you to the owner of the Jets, in which case it's still pretty iffy. You are winning the game. what does 2 extra points do?
cba fan Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: Isnt it statistically more likely that an extra point will be good over completing a 2 point conversion? So technically by going for it with a lower chance of scoring, you are being nicer to the opponent and giving them a better chance of not running g up the score..... all the so called experts surmise, and have stats to back it up, that going for two in the long run scores more points. problem is situationally if you do that you can lose a game you should not lose because of going for two when one is the right call, situationally. IE: making a two point conversion in a blowout is meaningless. Missing a two pt conversion in a close game can by far far wrong, situationally of course. Ask Browns why they went for two when 1 pt would have given them a 3 pt lead vs Oak. That mistake forced them to go for 2 again and lucky they made it. Piitsburgh tried going for a lot of 2's doing that last year and quickly decided it was pretty stupid in NFL. They used their own numbers showing they make them at a higher league avg and were set to do it all the time as they thought Big Ben and Pitt's wr's/te's gave them even better odds. What they failed to take into account is if you have a large sample size and they do it more and more. They likely fail back to the mean. Which was exactly as it appeared to be trending before they stopped it. So I give them credit for being bold and then more credit to stop being stupid when it showed it was flawed thinking. Edited October 1, 2018 by cba fan
cba fan Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: Isnt it statistically more likely that an extra point will be good over completing a 2 point conversion? So technically by going for it with a lower chance of scoring, you are being nicer to the opponent and giving them a better chance of not running g up the score..... you fail to take into account you get double points when scoring 2 pt conversion so you statistically could be worse converting 2pt vs kicking and still score more points. https://www.boydsbets.com/nfl-two-point-conversion-success-rate/ Edited October 1, 2018 by cba fan
FearLess Price Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Gotta get those 2 point practice reps in while you can. This is a big non story.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: ...so he needs to be "coached up" I take it..............
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) I like the attitude Should have hired the man when you had the chance, NJ! Edited October 1, 2018 by TheFunPolice
Dr.Sack Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 We couldn’t even score 2 points yesterday so your point is don’t score as much as you can mmmkay.
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 I love it when teams have some attitude. As much as I hate NE I respect them for going for 19-0. Most teams would "do what the book says" and fold it up like the Colts did when they had a very real shot at going 16-0. Wimpy and scared is how most coaches play it.
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