PolishPrince Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Anyone else find it insane that we have a rookie QB, with minimal WR "help," playing in his third ever start facing a lot of pressure... and we call 10 total RB runs. 5 for Ivory and 5 for McCoy - that makes no sense to me. 4
Dadonkadonk Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 McCoy 4.8 YPC Ivory 2.8 YPC Yes Ivory might get an extra yard when there is no hole. But Shady gets 11 when there is a crack. You picked the wrong game and the wrong argument regarding Shady. 1 1
Aussie Joe Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 He is still of more value to the team this year then the scraps they would get by trading him.. 1
DallasMac Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: This will be his last season with the Bill's. We'll keep Murphy and Ivory and draft another RB. Everything will accelerate if he found even partially responsible for the jewelry beat down. Other players joining Shady off this roster next year will include KB, Holmes, Taiwan, Alexander, Kyle, Peterman, Miller, Lawson, Lee and Clay to name just a few. This is spot on. Guys, we are going to be pretty bad this year. And probably just as bad next year. I don't think we will see significant improvement until the following year. There is just a serious lack of talent on the team right now. Any talent we had was being overpaid and traded for draft capital. I'm still along for the ride but I do wish we had an offensive guy at the helm.
K-9 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Is he regular, washed up veteran bad? Or worse than regular, washed up veteran bad?
Starr Almighty Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 He had 5 carries today. If he were any good he should of had at minimum 500 yards. This clearly shows that he is in fact done.
Chicken Boo Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 He's lost half a step, but he's still a very good player. There's no trade value there. He's worth more to this team than a 4th or 5th rounder.
Prickly Pete Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Going into this season I was worried they were going to overwork him! I wanna see McCoy and Ivory in a 2 back set. McCoy is a skilled receiver out of the backfield so it's not that limiting. They need a speedster on the outside to get the Safeties a little more concerned about a deep pass, and a DB a few steps further from the line. Just sign the fastest guy off the street. Bring in a track star. I know those guys are frustrating, and on a team with decent receivers they become completely useless, but for this team it could open things up a little. How much more useless can a guy be than Robert Foster? Edited October 1, 2018 by OJ Tom
Nuncha Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, PolishPrince said: Anyone else find it insane that we have a rookie QB, with minimal WR "help," playing in his third ever start facing a lot of pressure... and we call 10 total RB runs. 5 for Ivory and 5 for McCoy - that makes no sense to me. This is the only team in the history of the NFL that abandons the run before the national anthem. WTF? I wonder if Shady still thinks Dabol is a "genius"?
MJS Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 What can you expect to get for an aging running back with a big contract? I'll answer that: nothing.
vincec Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 6 hours ago, PolishPrince said: Anyone else find it insane that we have a rookie QB, with minimal WR "help," playing in his third ever start facing a lot of pressure... and we call 10 total RB runs. 5 for Ivory and 5 for McCoy - that makes no sense to me. When they didn't run the ball in the preseason I thought it was so that they could see what they had at QB. But now it looks like it's just their offense. As you say, not ideal given their personnel. 1
PIZ Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Azucho98 said: This is the only team in the history of the NFL that abandons the run before the national anthem. WTF? I wonder if Shady still thinks Dabol is a "genius"? I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't take a genius to figure out to feature the run when you have a rookie QB. That doesn't mean having your QB run the ball though.
GreggTX Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 He can't carry the whole team. I bet the Pats would love to take him off our hands.
Doc Brown Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 I was saying all offseason we should look to trade him while he was still a valued commodity considering we were in full rebuild mold and a 30 year old running back doesn't fit into our future plans. Hey Beane, read this damn board. You might learn something.
nucci Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 7 hours ago, DallasMac said: This is spot on. Guys, we are going to be pretty bad this year. And probably just as bad next year. I don't think we will see significant improvement until the following year. There is just a serious lack of talent on the team right now. Any talent we had was being overpaid and traded for draft capital. I'm still along for the ride but I do wish we had an offensive guy at the helm. great...so no winning for a few more years...this is fun...
sleeby Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 8 hours ago, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. Last year he carried our offense to end the streak. When he was pounding the turf in pain in game 16 and then carted off the field we knew it was our offense on that golf cart. He's not young and not in his prime but c'mon already.
Fan in Chicago Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 8 hours ago, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. Change the title of your post
Gordio Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 8 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: He has no trade value imo I agree with the OP that he is just about shot. I also agree he has very little trade value.
Believer Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Beane should have traded McCoy in the off-season while he still had value... Big mistake... McCoy has no trade value now beyond a 5th round draft choice... Rookie GM mistake... in my opinion...
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