Bobby Hooks Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) This is such an old topic. Nothing has changed. Some players won’t want to come to Buffalo. True. Do you have a plan to change that or are you just starting the thread to somehow appease your unhealthy football anxiety? Edited October 1, 2018 by Bobby Hooks
ColoradoBills Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: A couple FA are not going to change this team Of course it won't. A good 2019 FA and draft can get them competitive.
Bing Bong Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm not sure what you're saying to me. I'm stating the Bills have a truckload of FA $'s and will have to overpay to get players to come here IF they want to come at all. I can't say it any simpler. Are you mad that the Bills will have to do that because I'm not trilled either, it's just the way it is. Oh then yeah sure.. I misunderstood. But does truckloads of FA money not what we did in a similar vein with Whaley, a mistake that got us in this cap hell we're supposed to be in. And I was okay with the Whaley approach in getting his QB and offense in a hurry to support the defense he had going. He tried to win quick, screwed up quick. Just want to point out sounds like what we're advocating again. And again, why not.. just can't screw it up. And if you do, change course or get canned quickly. 1
Virgil Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 It’s been a while since we’ve had this conversation again. Good times
aceman_16 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 59 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Money is a big factor but there are also many other factors that come into play. Nah... mostly money
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: Nah... mostly money It really depends on the player. I would agree money is the number 1 factor, but there are other factors as well. Dan Bailey is a prime example of turning down more money to join a good team.
Bing Bong Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Dan Bailey is a prime example of turning down more money to join a good team. Ugh why would a kicker of all people do that hahaha. Lame Dan.
aceman_16 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: It really depends on the player. I would agree money is the number 1 factor, but there are other factors as well. Dan Bailey is a prime example of turning down more money to join a good team. The old Dallas kicker?
ColoradoBills Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Oh then yeah sure.. I misunderstood. But does truckloads of FA money not what we did in a similar vein with Whaley, a mistake that got us in this cap hell we're supposed to be in. And I was okay with the Whaley approach in getting his QB and offense in a hurry to support the defense he had going. He tried to win quick, screwed up quick. Just want to point out sounds like what we're advocating again. And again, why not.. just can't screw it up. And if you do, change course or get canned quickly. I understand you now too. What I believe were Whaley went wrong was...... 1. He spent ALL the FA $s at once. If Beane does this right (like I seen other teams do recently) is he has to leave 20-25 million unspent and roll it over to 2020. You can't find all your needs in 1 FA without reaching. 2. He got even greedier by not signing even contracts. Too many contracts had a very small 1st year cost. That pushes the money owed out to the future. That is not good financial planning in any way of life. 3. Whaley even went farther and started "refinancing" contract to free up current year cap with bigger guarantees later in the contract. The perfect example is Clay initial and redone contract. That was a crime. I really hope Beane is much better at this stuff. To be fair to Whaley all the coaching changes did not help at all! Also you got to pay the right players! LOL 1
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, aceman_16 said: The old Dallas kicker? Ya 2 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Ugh why would a kicker of all people do that hahaha. Lame Dan. Lol so true. As a kicker I would be pocketing as much money as possible lol
Agent 91 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 We will not be a destination right now. 3 players quit on us and others are tweeting. We need bbn to produce a winner... or a plausible hope to be a contender fast or people will go elsewhere in order to win. These guys painted themselves in a corner with their process and culture. The league is watching
ctk232 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, aceman_16 said: Money. /close thread Even so, don’t want to spend all that cap on three guys. To OP’s question, that’s why we have the draft. But we need more pull to Lee contract prices down as much as possible. Edited October 1, 2018 by ctk232
jahnyc Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 The problem is that there will be a bunch of teams with a lot of cap space next offseason, including the Colts, the Jets and the Texans, all of which have more cap space than we do. The Browns and the 49ers also have significant cap space for 2019. This means there will be significant competition for a limited pool of quality free agents, and I don't think that Buffalo will be as attractive a destination as compared to some of these other choices, particularly if the team and Josh Allen struggle this year. Each year, it seems that the pool of blue chip free agents gets smaller as teams sign their own to be free agents before they can hit the market. I don't think we can count on fixing most of our talent problems through free agent acquisitions in one offseason.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 All everyone keeps saying is how much money we have next year and how many picks...what makes anybody think these guys will pick the right players? You can have all the picks and money in the world. If you can’t identify talent..it won’t matter. Our Recieving group is legitimately embarrassing. The fact that these guys had months before the season to get players in and this is what they came up with, is scary. Last year was no better. The Oline is very suspect. That’s a good feeling when you are starting a rookie.?To think that our only 2 QBs on the roster, are a very raw Rookie and a second year guy that we literally can’t put back in a game...what are we doing here? I don’t care if we have 150 mil in cap room, these guys don’t know what to do with it. We don’t have to be this bad right now. We don’t have money tied up in a big qb contract. The cupboard wasn’t bare when these guys got here. They made it that way. Seemingly for no reason. Where does this faith come from? 1
billsfan714 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 The pick thing is really overrated, a extra what 4.5 and 7th. Going to be a lot of pressure on Beane to really hit and I mean really hit on those first 3 choices with all the glaring holes on this offense. 1
ColoradoBills Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, jahnyc said: The problem is that there will be a bunch of teams with a lot of cap space next offseason, including the Colts, the Jets and the Texans, all of which have more cap space than we do. The Browns and the 49ers also have significant cap space for 2019. This means there will be significant competition for a limited pool of quality free agents, and I don't think that Buffalo will be as attractive a destination as compared to some of these other choices, particularly if the team and Josh Allen struggle this year. Each year, it seems that the pool of blue chip free agents gets smaller as teams sign their own to be free agents before they can hit the market. I don't think we can count on fixing most of our talent problems through free agent acquisitions in one offseason. You speak the truth.
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 It will be an up and down year for Josh which most of us knew already, this year is about our QB's progression. Next year we can use some cap money protecting him, you don't think players will sign here? We made the playoffs last year, I think we'll be fine. Now getting FA WR's may be a tough task but we might want to draft our own anyways. I think the future is bright if we don't get Allen killed but that's just my opinion, I can see what this team could be, when Allen has time the guy is a much different QB than when he's running for his life.
Cash Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 In this thread: Many true Billievers who think the path to success is overpaying lots of free agents.
Dadonkadonk Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Name a single player that ever said they didn't want to come to Buffalo after Jim Kelly? Players don't care. We have cap space and multiple holes in the OL to fill
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