FearLess Price Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 43 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: I just think he will turn into what we expected when drafted. His rookie campaign was a bit tough but willing to see what this guy can still do. I think Zay can be a solid #2 and slot WR if he works real hard. He hasnt fully adjusted to the NFL yet. And still isnt that good at beating press coverage. He has def shown small improvements from last season 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He might be okay but he is nowhere near those other guys. He has a long way to go before he even belongs in a conversation with Kupp and Juju. Their numbers this year are close to his combined through the first 2 years. They’ve also caught 15 more TDS between them. Zay may end up okay but there is no comparison. Agree. Rite now theres no comparrison when we stop being homers. Yes the QB matter but Zay dropped so many catchable balls last year that the argument doesnt apply to him. Especially if you see all the off target highlight reel catches the other two have made
KW95 - JA17 Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Man, so if we drafted JUJU or Kupp and Zay was playing with Ben or Goff we be saying we wish we drafted Zay and need a draft "do over" no? How about we give Zay 7-8 targets a game 1st before we "confirm" him a bust? But, but, but what about our number 1 KB? We need to keep throwing to him. He is a stud and Cam Newton isn't it good. Edited September 29, 2018 by KW95
MJS Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 If our team gets a draft do-over, shouldn't every other team?
transient Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Krupp doesn’t exist ? Sure he does, he’s currently coaching a German hockey team. https://en.hcsparta.cz/clanek.asp?id=Uwe-Krupp-It%92s-a-tremendous-honour-for-me-to-be-part-of-Sparta-8014 1 1
PIZ Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 Tyrod Taylor was his QB. This year is basically Zay's rookie year. 1
Jay_Fixit Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Krupp doesn’t exist ? I think he means Uwe Krupp. 1 1 1
Kirby Jackson Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 58 minutes ago, PIZ said: Tyrod Taylor was his QB. This year is basically Zay's rookie year. And he is averaging 2 catches and 35 yards a game. He has a 57 yard catch too. His numbers are just like they were. He just isn’t very good. He may improve and I loved the pick. I was wrong. 1
PIZ Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: And he is averaging 2 catches and 35 yards a game. He has a 57 yard catch too. His numbers are just like they were. He just isn’t very good. He may improve and I loved the pick. I was wrong. The QB of the first game was Nate Peterman. Give it a little time. Kupp has Goff and JuJu has Roethlisberger.
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 JuJu is what this team needed last season a wr that could stretch the field.
PIZ Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 Just now, Bronxbomber21 said: JuJu is what this team needed last season a wr that could stretch the field. No receiver would have made a difference with Tyrod Taylor at QB.
CIrvine Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, transient said: Sure he does, he’s currently coaching a German hockey team. https://en.hcsparta.cz/clanek.asp?id=Uwe-Krupp-It%92s-a-tremendous-honour-for-me-to-be-part-of-Sparta-8014 He's a defenseman, why would we play him at WR?
BringBackOrton Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, PIZ said: The QB of the first game was Nate Peterman. Give it a little time. Kupp has Goff and JuJu has Roethlisberger. Kupp did more for Goff than Goff did for Kupp last year. 9 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: JuJu is what this team needed last season a wr that could stretch the field. JuJu is playing a majority of his snaps from the slot.
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Kupp did more for Goff than Goff did for Kupp last year. JuJu is playing a majority of his snaps from the slot. 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Kupp did more for Goff than Goff did for Kupp last year. JuJu is playing a majority of his snaps from the slot. Doesnt matter hes light years away from Zay
BringBackOrton Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Doesnt matter hes light years away from Zay It does matter to know what you’re talking about. JuJu’s role in the offense of Pittsburgh is not to stretch the field. He runs short to intermediate routes from the slot. He’s really good and way better than Zay.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 4 hours ago, chef4131 said: Moving up in the draft to pick Zay Jones and having Krupp/JuJu available ...old news....done deal....get over it......love this "shoulda...coulda....woulda..." crap..............but if we had taken Ngata versus Whitner............ 1
Dadonkadonk Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, PIZ said: No receiver would have made a difference with Tyrod Taylor at QB. Who threw all the passes Zay dropped last year? Zay was far worse for TT than TT was for Zay. I love all these posts where they say he would be good in the slot. He is too slow to play outside. So people assume he would be good in the slot. Slot WR needs elite quickness in today's NFL. Zay has shown no ability to play in the slot. He doesnt separate and he doesn't make the contested catch. He is best at lining up outside and running hitch, post, and deep cross. All of which are slower developing plays. It's the same lazy assumption a bust OT can play OG. Too soon to write him off but he looks like a complete bust at this point.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, PIZ said: The QB of the first game was Nate Peterman. Give it a little time. Kupp has Goff and JuJu has Roethlisberger. No need to make excuses for him. He had all kinds of opportunities and hasn’t been good. He was the lowest graded WR in the NFL last year. He may get better but he has been bad. 1
BringBackOrton Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: Who threw all the passes Zay dropped last year? Zay was far worse for TT than TT was for Zay. I love all these posts where they say he would be good in the slot. He is too slow to play outside. So people assume he would be good in the slot. Slot WR needs elite quickness in today's NFL. Zay has shown no ability to play in the slot. He doesnt separate and he doesn't make the contested catch. He is best at lining up outside and running hitch, post, and deep cross. All of which are slower developing plays. It's the same lazy assumption a bust OT can play OG. Too soon to write him off but he looks like a complete bust at this point. I disagree. It’s no longer too soon to write him off. He has shown no improvement since last year.
QCity Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: If there is a guy that you really want, you should at least know his name. Ahhh I remember the days when the board fell in love with Mike Lupati. 1
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