26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m just watching, and it’s how he looks. The eye test. I find stats for him being lighter, and he looks lighter. But again....time will tell. I would have taken him at #7. Getting Iupati and Pugh back would help a lot.
Thurman#1 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Really? Every time there was pressure in the pocket he was either sacked, stripped, or threw the ball into the ground on his way down. Really. "Pocket Movement Rudolph Rosen Jackson Mayfield Darnold Allen" https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-rankings-accuracy-arm-strength-and-everything-to-know-about-qbs/ "His fourth quarter and final drive against the Seahawks were excellent, as he dropped a few dimes at the intermediate level, calmly moved away from pressure with his eyes downfield, and tossed accurate passes to secondary targets. Like Darnold and Allen, his offensive line is concerning and, thus far, has been the worst of any of the four first-round quarterbacks from the 2018 Draft who saw the field in September." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/initial-nfl-evaluations-of-baker-mayfield-sam-darnold-josh-allen-and-josh-rosen/ That's just the first couple I found. He's always had legit injury concerns and no ability to escape the pocket and run away, but he's been generally considered as good at moving within the pocket.
Murdox Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 I have to say that my biggest takeaway from Rosen was surprise over how weak his arm looked. On many of his throws he also lacked an arc to the ball. A lot of balls were getting batted down. 2
Behindenemylines Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Murdox said: I have to say that my biggest takeaway from Rosen was surprise over how weak his arm looked. On many of his throws he also lacked an arc to the ball. A lot of balls were getting batted down. Agreed. Didnt appear to have any leadership qualities when things were going bad snd progressively got worse. Even his "I was being soft" interview was horrid. Seems so in genuine and as he put it-soft. 1
GimmeSomeProcess Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 How in the world are people defending Rosen tonight. He was awful just admit it but it’s tough to when it doesn’t fit the agenda 7 1
Jasovon Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 People especially in the media bending over backwards to make excuses for Rosen. He looked awful in prime time. 4
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: How in the world are people defending Rosen tonight. He was awful just admit it but it’s tough to when it doesn’t fit the agenda Exaaaaaactly 2 minutes ago, Jasovon said: People especially in the media bending over backwards to make excuses for Rosen. He looked awful in prime time. Thats because he’s the cool kid with his ***** trump hat. 3 1
H2o Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Rookie QB's are going to have bad games, a simple fact. You also don't write a guy off after some bad games in his first year as an NFL QB. It's flat out stupid to do so. I don't know what NFL you have been watching over your lifetime, but guys don't usually come fresh out of college looking like Elway, Favre, Rodgers, Brees did in their 5th year starting in this league. I still think that Rosen is part of the group that will turn out to be the best in 2 or possibly 3 decades.
BobbyC81 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Lfod said: You should of seen the love the Browns we're getting on this board before the season. That didn't last very long. For today’s grammar lesson, it’s ‘should’ve ‘ not ‘should of’. Should’ve is a contraction for should have. I ‘m really starting to worry about the quality of education in this country. 2
sleeby Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 6'4" 226 lbs is fragile? If multiple concussions from college then yes. Not calling him fragile or weak but brain injuries are selective based on height and weight. From what I saw last night of that oline his futire life insurance policy just went up in price.
Teddy KGB Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Rosen not chosen for a reason. What a ???? performance Allen > Rosen all day. Interception machine who passes for 8 yards a ton like Dak ???? Edited October 19, 2018 by Teddy KGB 4
JMF2006 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen looks way better than Allen NOT.......like every rookie QB thats not on a great team he looks lost.
DefenseWins Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: For today’s grammar lesson, it’s ‘should’ve ‘ not ‘should of’. Should’ve is a contraction for should have. I ‘m really starting to worry about the quality of education in this country. Starting to? You're a bit late with your concern... 1
ALF Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen and Allen show what happens when you have a bad OL. This will buy Beane and McD more time to rebuild the offensive side. 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 He had two first quarter pick 6s. No rookie had ever done that before... Not even NP! ? 1 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, ALF said: Rosen and Allen show what happens when you have a bad OL. This will buy Beane and McD more time to rebuild the offensive side. We have no OL and therefore no run game to speak of. Buffalo's offense somehow also has no receivers either. I honestly think if our top 3 WRs go on IR, and there isn't much drop off
billsfan1959 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, H2o said: Rookie QB's are going to have bad games, a simple fact. You also don't write a guy off after some bad games in his first year as an NFL QB. It's flat out stupid to do so. I don't know what NFL you have been watching over your lifetime, but guys don't usually come fresh out of college looking like Elway, Favre, Rodgers, Brees did in their 5th year starting in this league. I still think that Rosen is part of the group that will turn out to be the best in 2 or possibly 3 decades. We are 6 games into the first season for all of them. They have each shown flashes of the potential that got them drafted in the first round. Each has also struggled at times with mechanics, accuracy, reading defensive coverages, and making good decisions. Allen and Rosen in particular have had to deal with very limited offensive talent around them. There seem to be a number of posters that want to declare with some level of certainty, how good or bad any given QB of the 4 is going to be based on very limited criteria at this point - and many of those posters display little consistency in evaluating those criteria among all 4 QBs. I see 4 rookies who are playing much like the vast majority of rookies before them. I have no idea which, if any, will develop into true franchise caliber QBs. It will be a while before we know. And, to be honest, I only care about Allen. 5 1
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