Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 6:19 AM, NJKBillsfan said: He has more TD's than INT'S. We can't say the same for Allen who only as 7 TD's and 12 INT's. Expand Actually, he has 13 total TD and 11 int. 1 2
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 2:21 AM, Looper said: He has Larry Fitzgerald - we have Curly, Larry & Moe. Expand Actually, the Bills have Moe, Larry, and ‘fake Shemp’. Look it up, readers, if the reference makes no sense.
dave mcbride Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) On 12/24/2018 at 2:21 AM, Looper said: He has Larry Fitzgerald - we have Curly, Larry & Moe. Expand Their offense is terrible. Like, really terrible. Ours is bad too, I know. You do realize that Larry Fitzgerald is running a 4.8-4.9 40 now, right? On 12/24/2018 at 6:19 AM, NJKBillsfan said: He has more TD's than INT'S. We can't say the same for Allen who only as 7 TD's and 12 INT's. Expand If the qb runs it, in, it's a td for him. Edited December 24, 2018 by dave mcbride
tcampbell104 Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 2:57 PM, dave mcbride said: Their offense is terrible. Like, really terrible. Ours is bad too, I know. You do realize that Larry Fitzgerald is running a 4.8-4.9 40 now, right? Expand where did you get that information
Seventeen Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) On 12/24/2018 at 2:57 PM, dave mcbride said: Their offense is terrible. Like, really terrible. Ours is bad too, I know. You do realize that Larry Fitzgerald is running a 4.8-4.9 40 now, right? If the qb runs it, in, it's a td for him. Expand Yeah, but I also realize that Fitz catches everything thrown his way (65 receptions 5 TDs) so his speed isn't an issue. See Kelvin Benjamin ... Edited December 24, 2018 by Looper
syhuang Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) after week week 16: Edited December 26, 2018 by syhuang
26CornerBlitz Posted December 26, 2018 Author Posted December 26, 2018 We could do 800 words on each player, but let’s save it for the offseason and settle for essentially expanded tweets on each guy: 2. Josh Rosen: He was better in his first few starts, before Arizona’s already subpar O-line fell apart, its so-so receiving corps regressed (and lost impressive rookie Christian Kirk), and a change was made at offensive coordinator. Yes, replacing OC Mike McCoy with Byron Leftwich will likely be good for Rosen’s big-picture growth, but the system change that comes with it is difficult to implement on the fly. When Rosen is comfortable, his precision accuracy is among the best in the league. That’s enough to make his long-term outlook bright.
John from Riverside Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 2:25 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Oh it's worse. Their OL can't block anyone. Expand They can however run the ball....which really helps a qb
Doc Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 Not worried about any of the other QB's. Get Josh something better than the worst supporting cast in the NFL and see how things improve. 1
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 7:12 PM, syhuang said: Expand Lamar Jackson literally cannot throw the football out more than 6-7 yds accurately and Rosen 's QBR is almost 17 pts lower... 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 7:06 PM, John from Riverside said: They can however run the ball....which really helps a qb Expand Huh? Johnson is averaging 3.6 ypa and they have the lowest ypa as a team. You are severely underestimating how bad Arizona is. In terms of talent around them, I’d rank them: 1 - baker 2 - jackson 3 - Darnold (their group kinda sucks too) tied for 4 - Allen and Rosen On 12/26/2018 at 7:08 PM, Doc said: Not worried about any of the other QB's. Get Josh something better than the worst supporting cast in the NFL and see how things improve. Expand Quick name SF’s starting receivers this week!
Doc Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 7:17 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Quick name SF’s starting receivers this week! Expand I know George Kittle and Marquise Goodwin. But their OL and running game is far superior.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 8:09 PM, Doc said: I know George Kittle and Marquise Goodwin. But their OL and running game is far superior. Expand They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros.
syhuang Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 8:16 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros. Expand I assume when Doc said 'running' game', he didn't mean to include QB rushing yards after QBs escape from pass rush. Comparing Buffalo and SF, Buffalo's quarterbacks have 583 rushing yards where 536 are from Allen while SF's QBs only have 88. If we remove QB rushing yards just for a moment, Buffalo has 341 rushes for 1235 yards, or 3.62 YDS/A. On the other hand, SF has 357 rushes for 1687 yards, or 4.72 YDS/A. Of course there are designed QB runs, but you get the picture. 2
thebandit27 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 8:16 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros. Expand Of course he isn't the only one without an all pro (though Larry Fitzgerald is a former all pro). Allen is, however, the only QB surrounded by the worst group of pass catchers in the modern era. 1
Doc Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) On 12/26/2018 at 8:16 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros. Expand They have similar talent at WR, an all-pro TE, an excellent OL, a very good running game that doesn't need the QB to inflate its numbers, and a top OC. And Mullens is still 3-4 as a starter. Edited December 26, 2018 by Doc 1
billspro Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 7:12 PM, syhuang said: Expand Matches up with how they have looked imo 2
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 8:37 PM, thebandit27 said: Of course he isn't the only one without an all pro (though Larry Fitzgerald is a former all pro). Allen is, however, the only QB surrounded by the worst group of pass catchers in the modern era. Expand The front office that drafted Allen, assembled the offense! They traded up for Zay instead of Cooper or JuJuin the 2nd. They traded for Benjamin (former 1,000 yard receiver). Clay and McCoy were also valuable receivers. They picked 2 undersized slot receivers. Maybe they just suck at evaluating offense. So while the receivers were poor, I think people go into hyperbole to defend Allen. It isn’t the worst group in history (come on Bandit, you’re better than that). Our receivers can suck and Allen needs to improve on accuracy. Just like Rosen needs to. 1
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