26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:22 AM, CincyBillsFan said: Long time lurker though. My point was just that Bills fans and I suspect Cards fans are going to be comparing Rosen & Allen for as long as both are in the NFL. And for the record I think they'll both have long NFL careers. BTW, why the hell is Rosen still out there? Do they want to get him killed? Expand No point in putting Mike Glennon out there.
Nick the Greek Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen was hard to watch tonight. This is an ugly game. Allen didn’t look good last week, but I think it could be worse.
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:20 AM, LSHMEAB said: It's not teaching us anything about Josh Allen. I'm really not trying to be "that guy," but the celebration about Rosen struggling is a little creepy. Expand It may not be teaching us anything about Allen but it sure as hell is calibrating Allen's performance relative to one of the other rookie QB's.
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:21 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: It shouldn't. His team is over matched tonight against the DEN DL. Expand OH, like OUR line hasn’t been outmatched? Given pure protection, I take Rosen today. I’m not sure he’ll last long enough to prove he's better.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:25 AM, Augie said: OH, like OUR line hasn’t been outmatched? Given pure protection, I take Rosen today. I’m not sure he’ll last long enough to prove he's better. Expand The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. 1
Lfod Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:25 AM, CincyBillsFan said: It may not be teaching us anything about Allen but it sure as hell is calibrating Allen's performance relative to one of the other rookie QB's. Expand I don't think people understand that the Bills could of picked either Josh. So yes I expect it to spring up in debate. I don't why why they giving you a hard time over it.
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:27 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. Expand Sounds strange since Allen is out, but I question Rosen’s ability to keep taking the beating. Especially with his concussion history. I wish them all good health, and time will tell. Rosen just looks fragile.
HappyDays Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:27 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. Expand Sure but Rosen also has no escapability from the pocket whatsoever. Which was a known flaw of his coming out of UCLA. That was my biggest concern about him pre-draft. If you can't ever evade pressure you will not survive the NFL. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:30 AM, Augie said: Sounds strange since Allen is out, but I question Rosen’s ability to keep taking the beating. Especially with his concussion history. I wish them all good health, and time will tell. Rosen just looks fragile. Expand 6'4" 226 lbs is fragile?
Southern Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:22 AM, Augie said: When I lived in SC and people talked about education, they used to say “thank God for Mississippi!” Watching the Cardinals, I feel like that should be the Bills mantra. Expand I’m from Mississippi and I have a Masters Degree and a good job with the government. What’s your point? 1
LSHMEAB Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:29 AM, Lfod said: I don't think people understand that the Bills could of picked either Josh. So yes I expect it to spring up in debate. I don't why why they giving you a hard time over it. Expand You know what? I'm being a hypocrite on this. I constantly bemoan the fact that we didn't draft Mahomes, so it's only fair to revel in Rosen's failure tonight. Rosen had absolutely no chance to throw and zero protection, but overall it's fair game.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:31 AM, HappyDays said: Sure but Rosen also has no escapability from the pocket whatsoever. Which was a known flaw of his coming out of UCLA. That was my biggest concern about him pre-draft. If you can't ever evade pressure you will not survive the NFL. Expand I disagree. He has pocket mobility and maneuverability even though he's no threat to run.
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:27 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. Expand That's fair and while I think the Cards have a better assortment of receiver options for Rosen then the Bills have for Allen their O-line is clearly inferior to the Bills. But to also be fair the improvement in the Bills O-line play is due to both better play by the Bills linemen and Allen's mobility.
K-9 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:20 AM, Augie said: Rosen may have been the “most pro ready” and “throw the best ball”, but he looks like the little JV QB out there against the big boys. It makes me feel better about our guy. Expand Damn straight. Our boy has "stature."
HappyDays Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:33 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: I disagree. He has pocket mobility and maneuverability even though he's no threat to run. Expand Really? Every time there was pressure in the pocket he was either sacked, stripped, or threw the ball into the ground on his way down. 4
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) On 10/19/2018 at 3:31 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: 6'4" 226 lbs is fragile? Expand I’m just watching, and it’s how he looks. The eye test. I find stats for him being lighter, and he looks lighter. But again....time will tell. I think I would have taken him at #7. Edited October 19, 2018 by Augie 1
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:34 AM, CincyBillsFan said: That's fair and while I think the Cards have a better assortment of receiver options for Rosen then the Bills have for Allen their O-line is clearly inferior to the Bills. But to also be fair the improvement in the Bills O-line play is due to both better play by the Bills linemen and Allen's mobility. Expand Not really. Allen has actually run into sacks on a few occasions and held the ball too long instead of pulling the trigger. The OL has just settled down a bit in the last couple of weeks.
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Arizona needs to be scouting the young offensive minded coaches in the league right now and be prepared to make a move this off season and bring in a whole new Coaching Regime that focuses on what’s important. wilks and McCoy are goIng to sabatoge Rosen with their antiquated philosophies. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) On 10/19/2018 at 3:35 AM, HappyDays said: Really? Every time there was pressure in the pocket he was either sacked, stripped, or threw the ball into the ground on his way down. Expand Did you see how fast pressure was coming? No QB is going to escape that. ARI OL vs. DEN DL was a mismatch. Edited October 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 3:32 AM, Southern Bills Fan said: I’m from Mississippi and I have a Masters Degree and a good job with the government. What’s your point? Expand My point is SC had lousy education, but other places produced outstanding examples of higher education who also enhanced their status by being Buffalo Bills fans. What more could you ask for? 1
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