26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Really? What about Aaron Maybin, Flowers, Mike Williams, JP Losman, and Shaq Lawson? Zay is definitely showing signs of bust, but not at the level of bustitude as the guys ive mentioned. Shaq is a star compared to Zay. At least Shaq is a good run defender while Zay does nothing well. 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Zay will be a good slot when the Bills draft a wide receiver in the first and they sign Sanu in FA.
billsfan_34 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Shaq is a star compared to Zay. At least Shaq is a good run defender while Zay does nothing well. Zay runs naked well- that has to count for something ? 1
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Zay runs naked well- that has to count for something ? Good Bless Him. 1
Ol Dirty B Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 11 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Oops that Slipped my mind ... thanks for the reminder. Trading Jerry Hughes to Buffalo in exchange for linebacker Kelvin Sheppard. How'd that work out for the Colts Still, I am sure that they continue to bring in guys who want to play in Buffalo. Big bag of CASH in 2019 and even BIGGER in 2020!!! Now that's an incentive. How can you blame a guy if he's not targeted? He can't pass the ball and catch it too !!!! Gisele Bundchen Feb 2012 “You’ve to catch the ball when you’re supposed to catch the ball. My husband cannot throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time. I can’t believe they dropped the ball so many times. Are you delusional? I wasn't criticizing the trade, your boy Whaley traded for him. And also the guy your username is named after, I think you owe dude an apology for all that hating. And don't waste my time anymore.
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 15 hours ago, matter2003 said: Must not have lived very long then. No way he is a bigger bust than first round 11th pick overall Aaron "Mayhem" Maybin from a few years ago...dude didn't even get on the field. I’d rather have a guy not play than drop as many balls as Zay. Maybin didn’t release a naked blood video either. Jones has had a negative impact, Maybin had no impact.
papazoid Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Zay Jones is the biggest bust in living memory ??…..NOT EVEN CLOSE.... so many to choose from Mike Williams OT (4th overall) 2002 Aaron Maybin, DE (11th overall), 2009 E.J. Manuel QB (16th overall), 2013 J.P. Losman, QB (22nd overall), 2004 Marcel Dareus DT (3rd overall ) 2011 John McCargo DT (26th overall ) 2006 going back farther...... Walt Patulski DE (1st overall) 1972 Tom Cousineau LB (1st overall) 1979 Erik Flowers DE (26th overall) 2000 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Are you delusional? I wasn't criticizing the trade, your boy Whaley traded for him. And also the guy your username is named after, I think you owe dude an apology for all that hating. And don't waste my time anymore. What are you talking about? Hating? My boy Whaley? yes Shady has not been productive when he has someone gets caught for holding and his big run is wiped out. The haters are those calling a 2nd year player a total bust. Bad has was last season he still has the most catches in the stat box this season Edited October 3, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Chemical said: I’d rather have a guy not play than drop as many balls as Zay. Maybin didn’t release a naked blood video either. Jones has had a negative impact, Maybin had no impact. Zay hasn't dropped anything this year or really the 2nd half of last year. This drop thing is old news. Not getting open much? Valid. Drops at this point? Not so much. 1
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) Zay is a guy you keep trying to develop along with the QB. If he’s not cutting it by the end of his rookie deal, move on. 4 games into his second season with less than ideal qb play and anyone to draw a double team across from him (ie Tyler Boyd has AJ Green) is going to hold back his development and production. He’s worth giving 4 years and then deciding given the circumstances. Edited October 3, 2018 by YoloinOhio 5
Philo Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Zay hasn't dropped anything this year or really the 2nd half of last year. This drop thing is old news. Not getting open much? Valid. Drops at this point? Not so much. I agree regarding the drops. My thought right now is that Zay's problem is more of a "good" targets issue. I just don't know if that is an issue due to his routes, play calling, or Allen's decision making. I think as Allen settles in and starts seeing the field better then that should coincide with better targets to Zay.
Wayne Arnold Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Chemical said: I’d rather have a guy not play than drop as many balls as Zay. Maybin didn’t release a naked blood video either. Jones has had a negative impact, Maybin had no impact. Zay doesn’t drop balls. He’s the least of the offense’s problems right now.
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Philo Beddoe said: I agree regarding the drops. My thought right now is that Zay's problem is more of a "good" targets issue. I just don't know if that is an issue due to his routes, play calling, or Allen's decision making. I think as Allen settles in and starts seeing the field better then that should coincide with better targets to Zay. I feel Daboll isnt necessarily doing what caters to the strength of this team. He seems overly reliant on the pass especially when we get doen at any point in the game. He literally abandons the run. This leads to 3 and outs and the score becoming worse in the other teams favor rather than keeping it close so the offense can hopefully generate something at some point. He is putting too much on Allen too soon and not giving him the help he needs.
Philo Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I feel Daboll isnt necessarily doing what caters to the strength of this team. He seems overly reliant on the pass especially when we get doen at any point in the game. He literally abandons the run. This leads to 3 and outs and the score becoming worse in the other teams favor rather than keeping it close so the offense can hopefully generate something at some point. He is putting too much on Allen too soon and not giving him the help he needs. Hard to disagree after last week. However the plan in Minnesota seemed about right, so hopefully he can game plan and call plays like that moving forward.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: too bad some won't believe it
Mountain Man Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 On 9/24/2018 at 2:29 AM, MarlinTheMagician said: Brandon Reilly = heart, hands and the instinct for how to get open. Yet he is so good no other team has ever gone for him.
Jay_Fixit Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Zay is a guy you keep trying to develop along with the QB. If he’s not cutting it by the end of his rookie deal, move on. 4 games into his second season with less than ideal qb play and anyone to draw a double team across from him (ie Tyler Boyd has AJ Green) is going to hold back his development and production. He’s worth giving 4 years and then deciding given the circumstances. Absolutely. He’s the best that the Bills have. His numbers aren’t great but that’s definitely not all on him.
DCOrange Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 21 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: slow sloppy route runner with suspect hands How this guy set NCAA records is anybody's guess It was mostly screen passes and drag routes, which require pretty much zero technical skill.
John from Riverside Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 I am just wondering why they waited till the end of the game to start putting Zay to work. How about doing this at the BEGINNING of the games.......
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