NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, unclepete said: For some reason people believe a team that drafts Zay Jones and trades for Calvin Benjamin can evaluate the talent of a Qb? They sure did a great job drafting and starting Peterman. The talent evaluation here is terrible. Makes me nervous about our brilliant trades and maneuvering to pick up Josh Allen Even the great Belichick has been known to flub talent evaluation (lately he repeated the Coleman mistake of an experiment)--it's an inexact science, hence the continual turnover in the league at the GM position. How many 1st round busts litter the history of the league again? Get the QB right, and most all else will be forgiven. If history shows that they did hit right on Allen, nothing else needs to be said.
billsfan89 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 34 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I have yet to see any evidence that the 2nd round pick that McDermott traded up to get is anywhere close to being an impact player. Most of his production has been GTP with outcomes already decided. Zay has come a long way from the awful 2017 campaign he actually looks like an NFL player out there. I hope that as Allen gets more comfortable and Zay feels things out a bit more (remember he is coming off an injury) that the more significant production from Zay will come. If Zay has a decent 50ish receptions 500ish yard season I think he certainly will prove he is worthy of being on the roster for one more season to see if he can develop in year 3. Sometimes player development takes time. I don't think Zay will ever live up to his draft position but hopefully he can be a contributor. 2
freeagentqb Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 with Zay on the field, it looks like we are playing short handed at 10 to 11.
Dopey Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 9:18 PM, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. Biggest bust?! Nah... keep looking, you'll find better candidates.
freeagentqb Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Not the biggest bust of all time (Maybin), but certainly in the top 10 all time, so far........
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Zay has the most catches by a we in Buffalo still
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Zay has the most catches by a we in Buffalo still That’s like saying I am winning the best smelling diarrhea contest so far
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: That’s like saying I am winning the best smelling diarrhea contest so far whatever floats your boat. If you wish to criticize the most productive WR on the team go ahead
Bangarang Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: whatever floats your boat. If you wish to criticize the most productive WR on the team go ahead Thats a shiny turd you polished ?
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: whatever floats your boat. If you wish to criticize the most productive WR on the team go ahead Just shut up with your disingenuous "most productive receiver on the team" garbage. You are entering clown status with this logic.
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: whatever floats your boat. If you wish to criticize the most productive WR on the team go ahead I will absolutely criticize him. He is not productive what’s so ever along with the other WRs. Productive and Zay Jones should never be used in The same sentence. 3 catches for 30 something yards all in garbage time yesterday. He has has no business at all being a NFL starting receiver and would be lucky to be a 5th on most teams. Great 2nd round pick by Beane 1
zow2 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 The next time Zay catches a contested pass will be the first. He makes his most impact in garbage time catch-up mode when the DB's are just playing a zone to not get beat deep. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Thats a shiny turd you polished ? its what we got might as well have the shiniest turd on the block
simpleman Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I will absolutely criticize him. He is not productive what’s so ever along with the other WRs. Productive and Zay Jones should never be used in The same sentence. 3 catches for 30 something yards all in garbage time yesterday. He has has no business at all being a NFL starting receiver and would be lucky to be a 5th on most teams. Great 2nd round pick by Beane I'm no McBeane fan, nor a fan of Zay. But Beane was not GM when Zay was drafted. Many on here will claim that he was a McDermott pick. So the blame would fall there if that is true. Edited October 1, 2018 by simpleman
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but he just hasn't figured out how to separate. Its a big issue. I'd like to see more short timing stuff with him. Especially as it seems like loading the box and blitzing with man coverage is pretty much the plan to stop our offense. Edited October 1, 2018 by dneveu
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 5 hours ago, unclepete said: For some reason people believe a team that drafts Zay Jones and trades for Calvin Benjamin can evaluate the talent of a Qb? They sure did a great job drafting and starting Peterman. The talent evaluation here is terrible. Makes me nervous about our brilliant trades and maneuvering to pick up Josh Allen I am an Allen believer. But your comment here sure does give me pause.
mob16151 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 9:23 PM, John from Riverside said: He has not been good.....but you have a very short memory if you think he is the biggest bust.....PLENTY of 1st round picks have busted out on this team in the past..... Maybin Flowers etc etc Erik Flowers was so so so so so so so so so so so so so bad.
Augie Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, billsfan11 said: That’s like saying I am winning the best smelling diarrhea contest so far Congrats! Do you get a trophy or anything? Maybe a mini bronze commode? 2
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Augie said: Congrats! Do you get a trophy or anything? Maybe a mini bronze commode? Still waiting on it! Those bastards
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