TigerJ Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) When you have a rookie QB, the opposing team does not know what to expect in his first few games. A few more games into the season and opposing defensive coordinators are going to begin to have more extensive game film to study. That will enable them to game plan more specifically to counter his skill set. I'm thrilled with what Josh Allen is doing and I am very optimistic for the future, but as we move deeper into the season, that chess game thing is going to happen with respect to game planning. Edited September 24, 2018 by TigerJ 2
Max Fischer Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 So far, I'm not seeing many rookie tendencies. He uses the whole field, has no favorite receiver, his touch passes improve every week and it's just a matter of time before he starts to hit the home run ball. The greatest weakness is he doesn't have experience and may be susceptible to "new" defenses. 12 2
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 Thank you Buzz Killington 8 18 2
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 I mentioned the same thing in another thread. I very happy with Josh, but not ready to anoint him as the franchise until after the season. I personally think he will adapt and get better and be the man in B-low for a long time.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 While all that's true, Allen also will learn more too. I think what you say is true when you have a QB with limited skills, i.e. Fitz, but someone with the physical skills like Allen learning what he does doesn't help as much.
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 just a reminder. this was the very highly regarded vikings defense allen chewed up and spit out. 2
Doc Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 His ability to run, not to mention his size, plus what he showed today which was an ability to throw on the run, will make it hard for DC's. If they get him some real weapons... 1
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: While all that's true, Allen also will learn more too. I think what you say is true when you have a QB with limited skills, i.e. Fitz, but someone with the physical skills like Allen learning what he does doesn't help as much. Your post is exactly correct. There is 18 years of tape on Tom Brady. Doesn't matter. 2 2
K-9 Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 This will be a challenge for Daboll more so than for Allen, imo. 8
Mat68 Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 His athletic ability makes defending him a problem. He looks like a more athletic young Roethlisberger. Most likely blitz and have him make quick decisions. The ability to recognize the blitz and attack it will be Allen next step. He does that we found ourselves our Qb for 15 years. 5
BillsFan130 Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Thank you Buzz Killington Lol this exactly ^ 2
Lfod Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 The Bills dominated today. All aboard the Josh Allen hype train, choo choo!!! 3
Teddy KGB Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, TigerJ said: When you have a rookie QB, the opposing team does not know what to expect in his first few games. A few more games into the season and opposing defensive coordinators are going to begin to have more extensive game film to study. That will enable them to game plan more specifically to counter his skill set. I'm thrilled with what Josh Allen is doing and I am very optimistic for the future, but as we move deeper into the season, that chess game thing is going to happen with respect to game planning. So they are gonna gameplan to stop a guy that can throw it to any spot and run for first downs when needed ? Cool story 4 4
Bill_with_it Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: So far, I'm not seeing many rookie tendencies. He uses the whole field, has no favorite receiver, his touch passes improve every week and it's just a matter of time before he starts to hit the home run ball. The greatest weakness is he doesn't have experience and may be susceptible to "new" defenses. This is exactly what I was thinking. The only tendency i can see is not giving up, i.e running, and running when three guys are on you. They showed a graphic of him uaing all most all of the receivers. As far as I can tell he hasnt shown a specific liking to an individual or collection of few plays either.
Matt_In_NH Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: just a reminder. this was the very highly regarded vikings defense allen chewed up and spit out. He looked great against a great defense but 196 yards is not chewed up and spit out. He took advantage of the opportunities that were given to him by the defense and made some nice individual plays.
Doc Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, mattynh said: He looked great against a great defense but 196 yards is not chewed up and spit out. He took advantage of the opportunities that were given to him by the defense and made some nice individual plays. He had about 100 yards of dropped passes, another TD, and they went into a shell in the 2nd half protecting the lead. 14 1
HappyDays Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Defenses will have to be extremely disciplined in their coverages because the play is never truly over when he has the ball in his hand. You saw that on the 55 yard Ivory reception. The defenders abandoned him because QBs don't just casually throw back across their body while runningwith perfect precision like that. Besides that it is really hard to defend a QB that can hit any level of the field who also has mobility and is tough to bring down. Once we add some real receivers our offense will be that much harder to defend. Edited September 24, 2018 by HappyDays 1 1
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, mattynh said: He looked great against a great defense but 196 yards is not chewed up and spit out. He took advantage of the opportunities that were given to him by the defense and made some nice individual plays. Leaped over. Ran over passed over. Flew over. Chewed up and spit out. 4
TigerJ Posted September 24, 2018 Author Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: While all that's true, Allen also will learn more too. I think what you say is true when you have a QB with limited skills, i.e. Fitz, but someone with the physical skills like Allen learning what he does doesn't help as much. I agree. There is going to be something of a race going on. Josh Allen is going to be learning and getting better, and defensive coordinators are going to be learning about him and trying to contain him. I'm not down on him at all, and I'm excited about the future. It is the combination of learning (Allen and opposing DCs) that is going to make the next several weeks interesting and exciting. I also agree about Allen's skill set. Opposing DCs were sometimes successful at game planning for Tyrod because his skill set was somewhat narrowly defined. Allen looks like a far more complete QB. That will hopefully make the game planning challenge for opposing DCs a whole lot tougher. Edited September 24, 2018 by TigerJ
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 Here's the silver lining with Josh...and this will keep a DC up at night: He has all the same mobility gifts that made Tyrod sometimes dangerous, and then he'll kill you with his arm, which Tyrod couldn't do. Give him time. He's gonna be a DC 's nightmare 2
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