Eric Reid possibility?

[Mark80]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

That's bending the truth a little. Plenty of states are "right to work" states and it is very easy to fire someone as long as you have even a small reason.

 

That has to do with Labor Unions and requirements to join them.  Not at all the same topic as "just cause" states vs "employment at will" states.  Trust me, I have 6 years of education on this.

Edited September 21, 2018 by Mark80

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

 

not a Constitutional Right to kneel during an NFL game.   You have a Constitutional Right to kneel in public on your own time, and you also have a Constitutional Right to burn a flag.  But try doing that at work.  

 

that said, I'd bring him in if he can help.  He's not the attention-talent-less clown that Kap is.  

Valid points. Regardless of anyone's personal views on kneeling, no NFL player is allowed to do whatever they want on their employer's dime, if against the rules to do so, just like any other employee. The only reason the owners haven't cracked down on it more is a PR worry--but by letting the issue fester without a real resolution, it's made it even worse IMO. Flyover America not happy, Kaep and his fans also not happy, great result! In the meantime we have to have arguments over whether or not Reid's off the field views should affect our GM's decision on whether or not to sign him. Football used to be an escape from political back and forth--wonder if it ever will be again?  

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, cage said:

 

Was that a serious post?

Damn right it’s serious!! Nobody Neals during the Star-Spangled Banner!! Lee Greenwood would be rolling over in his grave if he new this was going on. RIP Lee Greenwood

 

[NewEra]

Starting him a safety and putting Hyde at the nickel makes a LOT of sense at this point.  Everyone is just targeting that spot in the zone (and Edmunds) on 3rd down

[jr1]

Kenny Stills and Albert Wilson still kneel and it's not a big deal

[PolishPrince]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Reid makes this team better. Would you sign him?

 

That case is moving along isnt it. Survived NFL trying to dismiss didnt it

? It was allowed to be heard, big whoop dee do lol

[RememberTheRockpile]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

 

That's bending the truth a little. Plenty of states are "right to work" states and it is very easy to fire someone as long as you have even a small reason.

With the exception of Montana you don't even have to have a reason. The rest of the states you are an "at-will employee".

Edited September 21, 2018 by RememberTheRockpile

[Mark Vader]

6 hours ago, JoeF said:

Nike is the Devil's brand Slammer, the devil's brand

Well they are responsible for the color rush uniforms.

[RobbRiddick]

Kneel before Zod!

[1ManRaid]

7 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

See as I said. 

 

Felons

rapists

abusers

drugs

running around naked

gun violations 

murderers

 

All ok. But DONT exercise your Constitutional Rights. Then your not welcome

Last I checked, game day in the stadium is their workplace, and employers are entitled to have rules about workplace conduct including political statements and the like.

[Bruce_Stools]

6 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Stadiums Publically Funded. 

 

Employer has no policy against. So want to try again. Collusion to blackball is not a policy 

The employer certainly does have a policy against kneeling.

 

NFL games are governed by multiple codes of conduct. One is the NFL rulebook; another is the NFL game operations manual. The rulebook is concerned with in-game actions by players and coaches (like scoring, penalties, challenges and so on), whereas the game-operations manual dictates how NFL games should be run in the bigger-picture organizational sense.

 

The NFL rulebook makes no mention of the national anthem. But the game operations manual does.

Here’s what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

i may may have borrowed that part from a sports illustrated article.

 

 

[PlayoffsPlease]

7 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

I would have signed him. Makes team better. 

 

But he kneeled so NFL blackballed him. 

 

Felons

rapists

abusers

drugs

running around naked

gun violations 

murderers

 

All ok. But DONT exercise your Constitutional Rights. Then your not welcome

Just to be factual, the constitution says nothing about forbidding employers from having work place rules. 

[Buffalo86]

This team has a solid chance of earning the #1 pick.  Signing someone like Reid might cause us to plummet to #2 or 3.  No thanks.

[Kirby Jackson]

14 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Just to be factual, the constitution says nothing about forbidding employers from having work place rules. 

Nope, but just to be clear this isn’t a rule. It’s a recommendation. “The players SHOULD....” That’s why the issue is there. It isn’t a requirement and you can’t punish guys for something that isn’t in the CBA.

[PlayoffsPlease]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Nope, but just to be clear this isn’t a rule. It’s a recommendation. “The players SHOULD....” That’s why the issue is there. It isn’t a requirement and you can’t punish guys for something that isn’t in the CBA.

THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO EXPRESS YOUR POLITICAL BELIEFS ON YOUR EMPLOYERS TIME.  Hope that clears things up.  You do have a constitutional right to seek employment elsewhere. 

[Cripple Creek]

1 minute ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO EXPRESS YOUR POLITICAL BELIEFS ON YOUR EMPLOYERS TIME.  Hope that clears things up.  You do have a constitutional right to seek employment elsewhere. 

You sound like a meanie. 

[PlayoffsPlease]

1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said:

You sound like a meanie. 

Nope, just some one who actually understands the facts that this issue involves.

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO EXPRESS YOUR POLITICAL BELIEFS ON YOUR EMPLOYERS TIME.  Hope that clears things up.  You do have a constitutional right to seek employment elsewhere. 

There is nothing in the collective bargaining agreement between the players association and the employers restricting it. Hence, there is no punishment for it. Hope that clears things up.

[PlayoffsPlease]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There is nothing in the collective bargaining agreement between the players association and the employers restricting it. Hence, there is no punishment for it. Hope that clears things up.

The collective bargaining agreement is not the constitution.  This may be the root cause of your confused view of things. 

[Cripple Creek]

1 minute ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Nope, just some one who actually understands the facts that this issue involves.

The person you quoted correctly stated that there is no requirement between the players and the owners on "proper" player behavior during the anthem.  Your response had nothing to do with his statement.