Steve O Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/wrongly-imprisoned-golf-artist-released-media-publicity-143049018.html After spending 27 years in prison for a murder he didn't commit, Valentino Dixon was released from Attica yesterday. Had started heading down the "wrong path" at the time, so probably was no angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. Probably not the best of taste but it made me think of this and laugh ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Quote “The guys can’t understand,” Dixon told Golf Digest. “They always say I don’t need to be drawing this golf stuff. I know it makes no sense, but for some reason my spirit is attuned to this game.” Clearly a man who has never played golf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. This is the number one reason to repeal the death penalty. You can bet hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people have been executed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: This is the number one reason to repeal the death penalty. You can bet hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people have been executed. That's probably a vast exaggeration. But I'm sure there have been some. I've always said it should be preponderance of the evidence for Civil, without a reasonable doubt for Criminal, and no f'n way it could be anything other than this person for Death. It just needs to have a higher burden of proof in other words. Edited September 20, 2018 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: This is the number one reason to repeal the death penalty. You can bet hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people have been executed. I'd take the under on that bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mark80 said: That's probably a vast exaggeration. But I'm sure they have been some. I've always said it should be preponderance of the evidence for Civil, without a reasonable doubt for Criminal, and no f'n way it could be anything other than this person for Death. It just needs to have a higher burden of proof in other words. 3 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I'd take the under on that bet. Don't be so sure. There's been a lot of sloppy and lazy police and prosecuturial work over time. Edited September 20, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mark80 said: That's probably a vast exaggeration. But I'm sure they have been some. I've always said it should be preponderance of the evidence for Civil, without a reasonable doubt for Criminal, and no f'n way it could be anything other than this person for Death. It just needs to have a higher burden of proof in other words. Agree with all your points Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Fadingpain said: I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. I don't care what career path you've chosen, this holds true: 10% of the people are very, very good at it. 10% are really, really bad at it. 80% are mediocre and just doing enough not to get noticed. It's really sad when thing like this happen but it shouldn't be surprising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I'd take the under on that bet. I’d also take the under, as it takes so long to actually get executed, but I think we can all agree that ONE is TOO MANY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said: I don't care what career path you've chosen, this holds true: 10% of the people are very, very good at it. 10% are really, really bad at it. 80% are mediocre and just doing enough not to get noticed. It's really sad when thing like this happen but it shouldn't be surprising. Yup. This is good advice for the college grad lacking guidance thread. If you can find your way into a group dominated by top 10% types, you’ll likely have a much better experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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