Steve O Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/wrongly-imprisoned-golf-artist-released-media-publicity-143049018.html After spending 27 years in prison for a murder he didn't commit, Valentino Dixon was released from Attica yesterday. Had started heading down the "wrong path" at the time, so probably was no angel.
Fadingpain Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. 1
boyst Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 6:58 PM, Fadingpain said: I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. Expand Probably not the best of taste but it made me think of this and laugh ???
Koko78 Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Quote “The guys can’t understand,” Dixon told Golf Digest. “They always say I don’t need to be drawing this golf stuff. I know it makes no sense, but for some reason my spirit is attuned to this game.” Expand Clearly a man who has never played golf...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 6:58 PM, Fadingpain said: I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. Expand This is the number one reason to repeal the death penalty. You can bet hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people have been executed. 1 1
Mark80 Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) On 9/20/2018 at 7:57 PM, PromoTheRobot said: This is the number one reason to repeal the death penalty. You can bet hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people have been executed. Expand That's probably a vast exaggeration. But I'm sure there have been some. I've always said it should be preponderance of the evidence for Civil, without a reasonable doubt for Criminal, and no f'n way it could be anything other than this person for Death. It just needs to have a higher burden of proof in other words. Edited September 20, 2018 by Mark80
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 7:57 PM, PromoTheRobot said: This is the number one reason to repeal the death penalty. You can bet hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people have been executed. Expand I'd take the under on that bet.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) On 9/20/2018 at 8:07 PM, Mark80 said: That's probably a vast exaggeration. But I'm sure they have been some. I've always said it should be preponderance of the evidence for Civil, without a reasonable doubt for Criminal, and no f'n way it could be anything other than this person for Death. It just needs to have a higher burden of proof in other words. Expand On 9/20/2018 at 8:10 PM, RaoulDuke79 said: I'd take the under on that bet. Expand Don't be so sure. There's been a lot of sloppy and lazy police and prosecuturial work over time. Edited September 20, 2018 by PromoTheRobot
Steve O Posted September 20, 2018 Author Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 8:07 PM, Mark80 said: That's probably a vast exaggeration. But I'm sure they have been some. I've always said it should be preponderance of the evidence for Civil, without a reasonable doubt for Criminal, and no f'n way it could be anything other than this person for Death. It just needs to have a higher burden of proof in other words. Expand Agree with all your points Mark
Alaska Darin Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 6:58 PM, Fadingpain said: I have seen so many documentaries and read so many stories now, about innocent people doing jail time, that I am convinced this is fairly common throughout the country. It stems from the fact that often, in a lot of areas, the people enforcing the law are dumb or lazy or both, and they are not necessarily looking to have justice done. They are just looking to find a body to prosecute in a court room and then throw in jail so it looks like they are doing their job and the general citizenry can feel relaxed that justice was served. It's a big problem and would be viewed as a lot bigger, if the victims in this weren't almost always at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder. So for the most part, no one really cares. Expand I don't care what career path you've chosen, this holds true: 10% of the people are very, very good at it. 10% are really, really bad at it. 80% are mediocre and just doing enough not to get noticed. It's really sad when thing like this happen but it shouldn't be surprising. 1
Augie Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 8:10 PM, RaoulDuke79 said: I'd take the under on that bet. Expand I’d also take the under, as it takes so long to actually get executed, but I think we can all agree that ONE is TOO MANY.
KD in CA Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 9:19 PM, Alaska Darin said: I don't care what career path you've chosen, this holds true: 10% of the people are very, very good at it. 10% are really, really bad at it. 80% are mediocre and just doing enough not to get noticed. It's really sad when thing like this happen but it shouldn't be surprising. Expand Yup. This is good advice for the college grad lacking guidance thread. If you can find your way into a group dominated by top 10% types, you’ll likely have a much better experience. 1
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