Vlad Ducasse...NFLs best pass blocker?

[CDogg20]

Through two weeks he’s been ranked as PFFs #1 pass blocker. Personally I think he’s trash and hasn’t passed the eye test at all but I know many people here hold PFF in high regard

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/18/buffalo-bills-vlad-ducasse-john-miller-brian-daboll-pff/amp/ 

[John from Riverside]

Decausse for some reason grades like this......if they make a change it will be at Miller's spot

[Nervous Guy]

6 minutes ago, CDogg20 said:

Through two weeks he’s been ranked as PFFs #1 pass blocker. Personally I think he’s trash and hasn’t passed the eye test at all but I know many people here hold PFF in high regard

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/18/buffalo-bills-vlad-ducasse-john-miller-brian-daboll-pff/amp/ 

Wow...today's news is getting weirder and weirder...

[clayboy54]

In other news... TBD has the most knowledgeable posters on the planet.

[MJS]

He actually did fine last year. He had some rough showings in preseason and early on, but ultimately did ok.

 

He has his fair share of detractors, though.

 

The article states that Ducasse and Miller combined have only surrendered one pressure through two games, although Miller has taken a bunch of penalties.

 

Groy seems to be the big problem.

Edited September 18, 2018 by MJS

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Decausse for some reason grades like this......if they make a change it will be at Miller's spot

 

......ironically they both graded high......must be Castillo's expert tutelage............

[H2o]

8 minutes ago, Nervous Guy said:

Wow...today's news is getting weirder and weirder...

Preston = Miss Cleo

[All I Need is Hope]

So, Groy is the problem?  They can't all grade well and give up a s&%t ton of sacks, have rushers get into the backfield unblocked and have a 3.8 YPC avg.

[artmalibu]

2 minutes ago, All I Need is Hope said:

So, Groy is the problem?  They can't all grade well and give up a s&%t ton of sacks, have rushers get into the backfield unblocked and have a 3.8 YPC avg.

 

It would be nice to see break down to the cause of all the sacks.  Each one happened for a reason.

[CDogg20]

3 minutes ago, All I Need is Hope said:

So, Groy is the problem?  They can't all grade well and give up a s&%t ton of sacks, have rushers get into the backfield unblocked and have a 3.8 YPC avg.

I totally agree, I don’t understand how they can rank him so high when all I see is dirt play all over the line. They get pushed back consistently 

[teef]

i've had the weirdest day at work.  the bill's new has been amazingly weird.  i have a dinner tonight...i wonder if i should even go.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Another feather in the hat of the "PFF is trash" crowd.

[VW82]

Here's Daboll referencing Allen and Peterman holding the ball too long and struggling to diagnose the rush pre-snap.

 

“More than half of those sacks aren’t the offensive line,” Daboll said, referencing to quarterbacks Josh Allen and Nathan Peterman holding onto the ball too long during the first two weeks of the season. “We can do a good job with setting the table, getting things set to where we need to get them set to. Those guys have protected inside out for the most part in pass protection. There have been some free runners that you guys have seen. It’s not all on the line, no question about it.”

 

I'm a broken record at this point, but even the OC is publicly acknowledging it. Let's stop blaming the o-line for everything.

Edited September 18, 2018 by VW82

[Kelly the Dog]

So he never gets pressures and sacks attributed against him even though he continually gets beat and knocked back because his linemates are so bad their opponents get to our qbs first? Is this what I am supposed to glean?

[ctk232]

37 minutes ago, CDogg20 said:

Through two weeks he’s been ranked as PFFs #1 pass blocker. Personally I think he’s trash and hasn’t passed the eye test at all but I know many people here hold PFF in high regard

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/18/buffalo-bills-vlad-ducasse-john-miller-brian-daboll-pff/amp/ 

Thanks for posting, agree he doesn't pass the eye test, but interesting that's how the stats read. Though don't be fooled by grades - also says nothing for run blocking, but that's another story. This is not an NFL caliber line, and they are not playing like an NFL caliber line. Ducasse will not be a part of the future line, nor will Miller or Groy the way things are going. So they can grade however they would like right now, it's still not going to be the line of next year. Just hope that Castillo is also shown the door.

 

To be honest, I think our OL play is more an issue in the run game, and passing game is occasionally, if not frequently, exacerbated by WRs not getting open plus Allen learning his reads and progressions while holding onto the ball. 

Edited September 18, 2018 by ctk232

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, teef said:

i've had the weirdest day at work.  the bill's new has been amazingly weird.  i have a dinner tonight...i wonder if i should even go.

Your user name backwards is feet. Another weird occourence.

[oldmanfan]

My eyes see it much differently.  But I guess that's why I'm not an NFL coach.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

So he never gets pressures and sacks attributed against him even though he continually gets beat and knocked back because his linemates are so bad their opponents get to our qbs first? Is this what I am supposed to glean?

 

The best of the worst gets a trophy! YAY! 

[teef]

3 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Your user name backwards is feet. Another weird occourence.

oh my god...i'm going home.

[Ittakestime]

Groy has definitely been an issue at center.  Wouldn't mind seeing if Bodine is any better.