Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, rockpile said: I agree about the game, but the annual tailgate and seeing friends is the only reason I even GO to the home opener!. There's a nugget of truth there. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I believe Beane and McDermott are a package deal. They will either succeed or fail together. Plenty of previous regimes/HC's had their shot at this since Wade Phillips in '99, and whiffed so bad that by default McD has bought himself an extra few years. I don't think anybody can argue that McD was able to get the season turned around after the Chargers game (winning a tough one on the road in KC the following week), admitting to his locker room that what he'd tried hadn't worked, and got a bunch of no talents to overachieve beyond their pay grades--also a big reason why Kyle Williams decided to come back for one more run after buying in, and he's had the hindsight/benefit of living through truly awful coaching when he's seen it during his career, no? At least McD has the kahonies to admit when he's gotten something wrong, and not stick with such a bad decision over the course of a whole season, just to try to save his own ego. Peterman became a Thursday All-American during the off-season: full-go when everyone else was jogging, and that had even a bunch of posters on these boards saying it was the right call to say he'd won an open competition and save Allen for after the brutal opening stretch of games. Now that we know different, it's not like McD hasn't owned it--he immediately (again) tried to rectify the situation. He's in year 2 of his first HC gig, and the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned. Let's see what happens after adjustments have been made going into the next couple weeks. Much of the roster's dumpster fire that happened in the off-season I'm sure was not part of what he wanted either. 1
rockpile Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, nucci said: amazing how so many just accept losing with the hope we may have a decent team in 3-4 years It all comes down to expectations. I have been saying "Wait until next year" since the Bills lost to Kansas City in 1967 and did not go to the first Super Bowl. I would spend the off season optimistically thinking it would be better next year. I guess I am worn down! I try to watch every game (or DVR it). I go to as many games as I want, but the only thing I expect for a season any more is that the Buffalo Bills will play 16 games. Anything beyond that means they EXCEED my expectations. I wear my Bills shirt on Monday. I try not to look at next year UNTIL next year. I try to stay emotionally detached post-game after a loss. I am a Bills fan and always will be. This is how I survive!
The Crowing Rooster Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 A little depressed but not upset after going through 4 heart procedures and lung surgery I try my hardest to stay calm and cool.
Dr. K Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) I wasn't that upset. Interested in seeing Allen's play. Before the season I said they'd win five games and at best win two of their first eight. So they are on schedule for that. It sucks but that is where we are. It's not much fun being a Bills fan. Edited September 17, 2018 by Dr. K
row_33 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I wasn't that upset. Interested in seeing Allen's play. Before the season I said they'd win five games and at best win two of their first eight. So they are on schedule for that. It sucks but that is where we are. It's not much fun being a Bills fan. good your 5-11 prediction is holding up
Dr. K Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: good your 5-11 prediction is holding up I'd be happy to see them go 11-5 instead. Not holding my breath.
row_33 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I'd be happy to see them go 11-5 instead. Not holding my breath. 11 wins.... better off wishing this centrefold comes to life and....
SoCal Deek Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 0-2?? WTF...you mean these games count now? 1
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Newsflash: The Washington Post, in discussing the Redskins today, referred to the Bills as being "ridiculously awful." Our little secret is apparently out. They also had a feature story on the Vontae vault.
row_33 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: 0-2?? WTF...you mean these games count now? they don't count starting pitcher wins and losses, so why bother with football teams now?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Newsflash: The Washington Post, in discussing the Redskins today, referred to the Bills as being "ridiculously awful." Our little secret is apparently out. They also had a feature story on the Vontae vault. They thought beating AZ was a huge feat and after losing to the Colts big time they don’t have much to brag about. Not to mention the WP hardly has anything good to say about the Bills.
Figster Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Plenty of previous regimes/HC's had their shot at this since Wade Phillips in '99, and whiffed so bad that by default McD has bought himself an extra few years. I don't think anybody can argue that McD was able to get the season turned around after the Chargers game (winning a tough one on the road in KC the following week), admitting to his locker room that what he'd tried hadn't worked, and got a bunch of no talents to overachieve beyond their pay grades--also a big reason why Kyle Williams decided to come back for one more run after buying in, and he's had the hindsight/benefit of living through truly awful coaching when he's seen it during his career, no? At least McD has the kahonies to admit when he's gotten something wrong, and not stick with such a bad decision over the course of a whole season, just to try to save his own ego. Peterman became a Thursday All-American during the off-season: full-go when everyone else was jogging, and that had even a bunch of posters on these boards saying it was the right call to say he'd won an open competition and save Allen for after the brutal opening stretch of games. Now that we know different, it's not like McD hasn't owned it--he immediately (again) tried to rectify the situation. He's in year 2 of his first HC gig, and the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned. Let's see what happens after adjustments have been made going into the next couple weeks. Much of the roster's dumpster fire that happened in the off-season I'm sure was not part of what he wanted either. I like this summary, decisive moves by McD, The speed of Josh Allens development was just increased greatly by Bills HC McDermott. It was a gutsy decision that anyone who wanted to see Allen sooner vs later should appreciate in my humble opinion. Myself personally, big fan of the QB position and we have waited so long for a QB to come along like this, win or lose as long as Allen stays healthy and improves from week to week, I for one am going to enjoy it... Edited September 17, 2018 by Figster
cd1 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Amazingly not upset at being 2 and 0. Very upset with the blow outs. Terribly upset that there is now evidence mounting that McBean are not displaying sound judgement in the players they are signing. I am at a point that I think of "the process" as just bull ****. The time is fast approaching for McBean to "SHOW US THE MONEY"! 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) One step at a time. It will take time. 17 more points for and 16 points less for the other guys. A marked improvement. Edited September 17, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 1
HomeskillitMoorman Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 I don't care about being 0-2. What I care about is after how much draft capital and assets we put into getting a hopeful franchise QB...which I'm totally fine with...but then completely neglecting any kind of protection for him. That's not going to change in 1 year either. There honestly might not be a single legitimate starter on this o-line, and it's a problem when it might seriously hinder Josh Allen's development this year. I always said I didn't care about the record this year, I just wanted to see a plan and progression, and what I feared about having a lost year of development is what it looks like we're going to see. 1
Big Gun Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Just think of the players off the bickering Bills that McBean would have gotten rid of Bruce Jim Darryl Biscut Andre You can't just get rid of talented players in the name of process and replace them with nothing. I was on board in the beginning but the start to this season has me really questioning what is going on here. There still was no need to tear it all down, none whatsoever. If McBean feels he was incapable of expanding and attempting to make better a 9-7 playoff team then I don't know if I would trust him to rebuild anything. 1
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 5 hours ago, joesixpack said: Anyone with a smidgen of patience and common sense isn't upset today. We've patient for two decades and if Josh Allen doesn't pan out, this tram.is going to be bottom 5 for at least 3 years. I'm not giving up on this regime but people have a right to criticize and just don't have to accept that McBean knows what they are doing. It is very possible that they are just another in a long list of failed regimes in a couple of years.
Keukasmallies Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 We just have to hope that at some point the organization pursues the same goals that the fans have. Fans want/expect solid football play and a reasonable number of wins each season. The organization is a business and business lives for profit. Fortunately, for the organization, basic NFL profit isn't connected to the product on the field. TV money, continuing sales of season tickets no matter the product quality, ancillary income streams, e.g., parking fees, permit the organization a great degree of "freedom" to stray from the fans' goals.
McNubbins Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Meh, not really. Rookie QB, no weapons to throw to and a terrible oline. I am a little disappointed with how the D has looked though.
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