MJS Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 I don't think so. Everyone knows he was really good.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 5 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Who is Ruben Brown? ...Gov Jerry Brown's cousin............
DCBongo Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 Nope, every critical drive you would hear "holding, number 79, offense, 10 yard penalty repeat 2nd down". My father and I still prefer to any offensive holding as the Ruben Brown memorial penalty. ?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, DCBongo said: Nope, every critical drive you would hear "holding, number 79, offense, 10 yard penalty repeat 2nd down". My father and I still prefer to any offensive holding as the Ruben Brown memorial penalty. ? ..."momentarily detaining the opposition" sounds much more palatable IMO............... 1
LeGOATski Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, wppete said: Have you seen him lately? He looks very thin. So... that's a "no" then... 1
Helpmenow Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: The most underappreciated Bill of all time is Robert James. Never heard of him, lol
Ol Dirty B Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 6 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: I remember at the time even Bills fans said he only got to the pro bowl so often based on reputation This is what I remember also. My dad used to go on and on about this. I met him once as a kid, really great guy. Wish I could say that about some others but anyways. As I've gotten older I've noticed my dad's sports opinions are awful. Much like mine lol
billrooter Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bills Fan in Haiti said: I agree that he was very good, but definitely not under-rated as the OP asked. My opinion exactly, Brown was overrated many years if anything IMO. Edited September 16, 2018 by billrooter
Bob in STL Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 Rueben was excellent and not underrated by virtue of his many Pro Bowls. I thought Jim Ritcher and Joe Devlin were underrated Offensive Lineman.
Bob in STL Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: The most underappreciated Bill of all time is Robert James. Wrong. He was voted to 3 pro bowls and 2 All APro Teams while playing on a very crappy team. This means he was widely recognized by the league and the sports writers. He was a shutdown corner before they came up with the term. He was the reason they outlawed the bump and run. James is on the Bills Wall of Fame after a 6 year career. This is both recognition and appreciation. They can get no higher honor. Had and he played 10 years he may have been a Hall of Fame player, but like many, many, others players injuries shortened a great career. He he was not underappreciated but time moves on.
Big Turk Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Honestly I think he might be the most OVERRATED player...he was good, and great for a few years maybe but a lot of those pro bowls toward the tail end were coming from name recognition...he probably only deserved 3, maybe 4 of them based on his actual play. He was definitely NOT as good as you would think based on his resume. Edited September 16, 2018 by matter2003
HOUSE Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 Phil Hanson, Fred Smerlas,Eric Moulds are kind of forgotten too
BigDingus Posted September 20, 2018 Author Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/16/2018 at 3:03 AM, LeGOATski said: Can he still play? Man I wish...This O-line would immediately would improve to mediocre!
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