Mango Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: We were going to get beat 47-3 anyways. We could have started Kim Pegula at WR and saved the cap space. Kirby, you’re a guy with a lot of historical insight into the Bills, and X’s and O’s. Your posts are generally pretty level headed. I always appreciate them. It’s telling of this regime that you’ve been getting more and more angsty with their decisions. 1
YoloinOhio Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I know that I CAN be wrong and I will have no problem admitting it, but I don't think it's likely. Jim Caldwell did an ok job with the Lions but there was never any true belief he'd lead them to a Super Bowl. That's how I feel about McDermott. He'll have some success, but it will be outweighed by his failures. The signs are all around you. These guys aren't it. What is the parallel between Jim Caldwell and Sean McDermott that shows their careers will be the same? Jeremy Kerley played for both of them?
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: Really?? (As an aside, being a snarky d**k in debate just makes you look like a jerk.) I like Dawkins, but he's currently average at best. He has potential, but he ain't there yet. More to the point, with regard to your snark: https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-buffalo-bills-all-22-review-week-1-vs-baltimore-ravens https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/2017-buffalo-bills-all-22-in-review-guards_centers https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/2/25/17032128/2017-buffalo-bills-had-some-salary-cap-bargains-disappointments-jerry-hughes-vlad-ducasse-zay-jones https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/dion-dawkins/11818 https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/vladimir-ducasse/5586 I stand by my comment
Kirby Jackson Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mango said: Kirby, you’re a guy with a lot of historical insight into the Bills, and X’s and O’s. Your posts are generally pretty level headed. I always appreciate them. It’s telling of this regime that you’ve been getting more and more angsty with their decisions. I was a late adopter to “the process.” All that I said at the time is let’s see what these guys do before we give them a key to the city. McDermott got the most out of a mediocore team last year. I think that he’s a decent coach but I don’t really trust him. He’s also an egomaniac and so set on his guys. I don’t believe that he values talent nearly enough. Twice, he was okay starting Nathan Peterman. He doesn’t belong in the league. I give Beane a little more rope at this point despite some obvious mistakes (ie keeping Kerley for a week allowing him to hit the cap). He had to tear it down to clean up the cap. His career will be dependent on Allen and the next offseason. We are either going to be in great shape or a disaster. This is a real crossroads for the franchise. It’s where the Sabres were when they hired Tim Murray. Everyone loved him at first and he ended up being one of the worst ever. We will see what happens I guess. 2
RobbRiddick Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 I'm glad he's gone, his name annoys me
Mango Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I was a late adopter to “the process.” All that I said at the time is let’s see what these guys do before we give them a key to the city. McDermott got the most out of a mediocore team last year. I think that he’s a decent coach but I don’t really trust him. He’s also an egomaniac and so set on his guys. I don’t believe that he values talent nearly enough. Twice, he was okay starting Nathan Peterman. He doesn’t belong in the league. I give Beane a little more rope at this point despite some obvious mistakes (ie keeping Kerley for a week allowing him to hit the cap). He had to tear it down to clean up the cap. His career will be dependent on Allen and the next offseason. We are either going to be in great shape or a disaster. This is a real crossroads for the franchise. It’s where the Sabres were when they hired Tim Murray. Everyone loved him at first and he ended up being one of the worst ever. We will see what happens I guess. Im actually the opposite currently. I see most of these roster moves as Beane’s doing. I have little trust currently in his talent evaluation (pro or college). I don’t think we were in cap hell, but we are now. I do thibk if youre a good coach, you’re a better team than the day you showed up. If you’re a good GM, you have more talent than the day you showed up. Currently we are neither, and that’s concerning. It’s risky to tear down, because if you can’t replace, you’ve decimated a roster/franchise for 3-5 years minimum. He’s gotta be the best GM in the NFL next year in FA and the draft for this to pan out, because we released most of our top talent. I agree. If Allen pans out, Beane is fine for a while. He’s directly tied to his success at this point. Edited September 15, 2018 by Mango 1
Kirby Jackson Posted September 15, 2018 Posted September 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mango said: Im actually the opposite currently. I see most of these roster moves as Beane’s doing. I have little trust currently in his talent evaluation (pro or college). I don’t think we were in cap hell, but we are now. I do thibk if youre a good coach, you’re a better team than the day you showed up. If you’re a good GM, you have more talent than the day you showed up. Currently we are neither, and that’s concerning. It’s risky to tear down, because if you can’t replace, you’ve decimated a roster/franchise for 3-5 years minimum. He’s gotta be the best GM in the NFL next year in FA and the draft for this to pan out, because we released most of our top talent. I agree. If Allen pans out, Beane is fine for a while. He’s directly tied to his success at this point. Yeah, I am not saying the Beane has done a good job at this point. I think it’s an “incomplete.” He has massive pressure now to get this right but he is operating with a clean slate. They are going to have to draft well and spend in FA. They have a lot of holes.
COTC Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Domdab99 said: Then explain why we picked up a punter they hadn't actually seen punt, who also happens to be an ordained minister? This is a correct statement. His priorities are obviously way out of whack.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mango said: It’s risky to tear down, because if you can’t replace, you’ve decimated a roster/franchise for 3-5 years minimum. He’s gotta be the best GM in the NFL next year in FA and the draft for this to pan out, because we released most of our top talent. Problem with your complaint: Our "top talent" consisted of a decoy WR, a rotational DT and a LT who was chronically injured while with us. So, not exactly top talent.
JohnC Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, BobChalmers said: "that would've paid the part of Cordy Glenn's salary we saved by trading him. " Why do so many - including "professional" media people - keep talking about the Glenn and Taylor TRADES as if they were only salary moves?? Without those two trades (for picks), the Bills don't have Allen and Edmunds right now - they are the future of this team. You are astute and perspicacious. The Bills haven't had a franchise qb in over a generation. The organization did what they had to do to get an authentic franchise qb prospect. And yet some people are bothered by that. It makes no sense.
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Forgive me for stating the obvious so late in the day on this topic, but wasn't Kerley our number 3 receiver at worst, but in reality our number 2? Edited September 16, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1
Kmart128 Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 We really need to release a TE.... Wasting roster spots
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, JohnC said: You are astute and perspicacious. The Bills haven't had a franchise qb in over a generation. The organization did what they had to do to get an authentic franchise qb prospect. And yet some people are bothered by that. It makes no sense. Because it’s not an acceptable excuse for every roster move 2
BuffAlone Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 KB and Josh Gordon outside, Zay in the slot. I like it?
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) I like him, I really do for what he does...but why is Andre Holmes the only WR that gets to sleep soundly at night without any fear of getting cut? Edited September 16, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1
JohnC Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Because it’s not an acceptable excuse for every roster move Without the Cordy Glenn trade with the Bengals that moved us up the board the Bills would not have been able to draft Josh Allen. I would make that deal any day of the week. 1
John from Riverside Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Cordy, sure. Tyrod, less essential in this narrative Have you called back on all the times you’ve called people out for being negative? It seems you just plow on to the next player/coach to hype and call fellow posters out on being skeptical of. As a matter of fact....yes I have.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 A numbers game at DT that we created by waiving Washington. This team is not very smart. 3
Beast Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 The Bills will make up for this when they sign Larry, Moe and Shemp next week.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 Kerely wasn't any good so no big loss, but I wish we trying to find some offense to develop.
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