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Anyone that has Brady on their list is mental. The guy is a cheating POS scumbag who plays for a cheating POS scumbag. He doesn't  deserve to be a member of the NFL let alone in the discussion for Top 5 QB's.

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I can’t speak of those QBs I wasn’t alive to watch.

 

Greatest:  have had the best careers

brady 

montana

manning

elway

brees

 

best:  at their best, they’re the best I’ve seen

 

rodgers

steve young

brady

manning

marino

 

 

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I'd rate Kelly, Montana and Marino highly for the fact their accomplishments occurred when there were fewer protections of the QB. They were man handled pretty good.

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6 minutes ago, boater said:

I'd rate Kelly, Montana and Marino highly for the fact their accomplishments occurred when there were fewer protections of the QB. They were man handled pretty good.

 

That and when db could mug receivers 

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1. Brady

2. Montana

3. P. Manning

4. Unitus

5. Brees

 

I know Brees won't be a super popular pick in the top 5, but I really love watching him. So incredible how many seasons he's thrown over or near 5,000 yards. He seems like a good guy too.

 

I think Marino is slightly overrated. He was great to be sure, but never won a championship and actually threw quite a few INT's. Great passer of the football, though. I also think Rodgers is a little overrated (just a little bit), but at least he has won a championship.

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It’s interesting how closely the QB’s that you have been listing aligns with the top QB’s for 4th quarter comebacks.   These are the QB’s who have made clutch plays to carry their teams into victory.  
 
Rank Player 4QC Years Tm Link
1 Peyton Manning 43 1998-2015 2TM View Comebacks
2 Tom Brady 34 2000-2018 nwe View Comebacks
  Johnny Unitas+ 34 1956-1973 2TM View Comebacks
4 Dan Marino+ 33 1983-1999 mia View Comebacks
5 John Elway+ 31 1983-1998 den View Comebacks
6 Ben Roethlisberger 29 2004-2018 pit View Comebacks
  Fran Tarkenton+ 29 1961-1978 2TM View Comebacks
  Vinny Testaverde 29 1987-2007 7TM View Comebacks
9 Drew Brees 28 2001-2018 2TM View Comebacks
  Brett Favre+ 28 1991-2010 4TM View Comebacks
11 Eli Manning 26 2004-2018 nyg View Comebacks
  Joe Montana+ 26 1979-1994 2TM View Comebacks
  Matt Ryan 26 2008-2018 atl View Comebacks
  Matthew Stafford 26 2009-2018 det View Comebacks
15 Warren Moon+ 25 1984-2000 4TM View Comebacks
16 Drew Bledsoe 24 1993-2006 3TM View Comebacks
  Tony Romo 24 2004-2016 dal View Comebacks
  Y.A. Tittle+ 24 1948-1964 3TM View Comebacks
19 Jay Cutler 23 2006-2017 3TM View Comebacks
  Dave Krieg 23 1980-1998 6TM View Comebacks

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Rules were not there to protect the qb  Its easier now  Brady doesn't have to worry about Dick Night Train lane trying to cripple him on every down  Also WR get free run of the field  Back then you could shove the wr around all over the field and then Ronnie Lott could come over and decapitate the receiver.  Marino's 48 tds in 84' is ridiculous when you compare the eras

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1) Graham

2) Unitas

3) Baugh

4) Montana

5) Brady

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Forward Progress said:
It’s interesting how closely the QB’s that you have been listing aligns with the top QB’s for 4th quarter comebacks.   These are the QB’s who have made clutch plays to carry their teams into victory.  
 
Rank Player 4QC Years Tm Link
1 Peyton Manning 43 1998-2015 2TM View Comebacks
2 Tom Brady 34 2000-2018 nwe View Comebacks
  Johnny Unitas+ 34 1956-1973 2TM View Comebacks
4 Dan Marino+ 33 1983-1999 mia View Comebacks
5 John Elway+ 31 1983-1998 den View Comebacks
6 Ben Roethlisberger 29 2004-2018 pit View Comebacks
  Fran Tarkenton+ 29 1961-1978 2TM View Comebacks
  Vinny Testaverde 29 1987-2007 7TM View Comebacks
9 Drew Brees 28 2001-2018 2TM View Comebacks
  Brett Favre+ 28 1991-2010 4TM View Comebacks
11 Eli Manning 26 2004-2018 nyg View Comebacks
  Joe Montana+ 26 1979-1994 2TM View Comebacks
  Matt Ryan 26 2008-2018 atl View Comebacks
  Matthew Stafford 26 2009-2018 det View Comebacks
15 Warren Moon+ 25 1984-2000 4TM View Comebacks
16 Drew Bledsoe 24 1993-2006 3TM View Comebacks
  Tony Romo 24 2004-2016 dal View Comebacks
  Y.A. Tittle+ 24 1948-1964 3TM View Comebacks
19 Jay Cutler 23 2006-2017 3TM View Comebacks
  Dave Krieg 23 1980-1998 6TM View Comebacks

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Depends on how you define a "4th Quarter Comeback." If it is: Your team was down a point heading into the fourth quarter, then it is meaningless. If it is: Leading the team to a game-winning score at the end of the game, you are correct.

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1 hour ago, boater said:

I'd rate Kelly, Montana and Marino highly for the fact their accomplishments occurred when there were fewer protections of the QB. They were man handled pretty good.

I don’t ever remember seeing Marino get hit hard.  His release was too quick and the Dolphins always did a good job of protecting him.  So did the refs.

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1) Tom Brady ( it's not even close )

2) Joe Montana

3) Dan Marino 

4) Peyton Manning

5) Drew Brees

 

Honorable mentions : Warren Moon ( the most underrated IMO ) and Aaron Rodgers

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1 hour ago, Forward Progress said:

Jim Kelly

Jack Kemp

Joe Ferguson

Josh Allen

Doug Flutie

 

There you go!  Fast forward with your flux capacitor 15 years.....  Expand the list and you will find Brady*** at somewhere around 25*** 

 

*** Denotes questionable stats based on no reasonable idea of the volume of cheating.

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1 hour ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Elway should be on more peoples lists. I forgot about him.  I dreaded facing him far more than facing Marino. 

 

Hard for me to put Elway ahead of Kelly when I watched Kelly outplay him in basically every matchup between the two 

 

I know that's not exactly a fair measuring stick, but it's hard to shake

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2 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

1.) Brady

2.) Montana

3.) Rodgers

4.) Manning

5.) Favre

6.) Roethlisberger

7.) Unitas

8.) Staubach

9.) Young

10.) Kelly

11.) Marino

As much as I love Kelly and the fact that he's the best QB we've ever had. He's not in the top 10 of all time. There's no way

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8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Hard for me to put Elway ahead of Kelly when I watched Kelly outplay him in basically every matchup between the two 

 

I know that's not exactly a fair measuring stick, but it's hard to shake

I would have cried if they ever traded Kelly for Elway or Kelly for Marino.  But conventional wisdom typically ranks the Elway and Marino ahead of Kelly. 

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3 hours ago, CDogg20 said:

Who are your top 5 interested to hear. 

 

Mine would have to be...

 

1. Manning

2. Brady

3. Montana

4. Marino 

5. Rogers

 

Favre 

Kelly 

Sammy Baugh 

Young

Brees

Just miss the list off the top of my head 

 

Kelly is no way in the top 10 - sorry.

25 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

1) Tom Brady ( it's not even close )

2) Joe Montana

3) Dan Marino 

4) Peyton Manning

5) Drew Brees

 

Honorable mentions : Warren Moon ( the most underrated IMO ) and Aaron Rodgers

 

Hehe - no Unitas, Baugh, Otto Graham?

 

Staubach, Bradshaw, Starr...?

 

Here's one list - doesn't include the current guys...

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/508810-ranking-the-hall-of-fame-quarterbacks#slide25

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37 minutes ago, Forward Progress said:
It’s interesting how closely the QB’s that you have been listing aligns with the top QB’s for 4th quarter comebacks.   These are the QB’s who have made clutch plays to carry their teams into victory.  
 
Rank Player 4QC Years Tm Link
1 Peyton Manning 43 1998-2015 2TM View Comebacks
2 Tom Brady 34 2000-2018 nwe View Comebacks
  Johnny Unitas+ 34 1956-1973 2TM View Comebacks
4 Dan Marino+ 33 1983-1999 mia View Comebacks
5 John Elway+ 31 1983-1998 den View Comebacks
6 Ben Roethlisberger 29 2004-2018 pit View Comebacks
  Fran Tarkenton+ 29 1961-1978 2TM View Comebacks
  Vinny Testaverde 29 1987-2007 7TM View Comebacks
9 Drew Brees 28 2001-2018 2TM View Comebacks
  Brett Favre+ 28 1991-2010 4TM View Comebacks
11 Eli Manning 26 2004-2018 nyg View Comebacks
  Joe Montana+ 26 1979-1994 2TM View Comebacks
  Matt Ryan 26 2008-2018 atl View Comebacks
  Matthew Stafford 26 2009-2018 det View Comebacks
15 Warren Moon+ 25 1984-2000 4TM View Comebacks
16 Drew Bledsoe 24 1993-2006 3TM View Comebacks
  Tony Romo 24 2004-2016 dal View Comebacks
  Y.A. Tittle+ 24 1948-1964 3TM View Comebacks
19 Jay Cutler 23 2006-2017 3TM View Comebacks
  Dave Krieg 23 1980-1998 6TM View Comebacks

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Is it possible that someone like Jim Kelly just won the games by getting his team ahead earlier? 

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So just throwing this out there as a Kelly homer—NONE of the other class of ‘83 greats playing in the AFC (Elway, Marino) EVER were able to get past Kelly in the playoffs; Jim won each time head to head (and let’s not forget also took care of Montana in ‘93 AFC title game) while acting as his own OC at the line. That little publicized fact lost in the 4 SB run was one of the reasons Vic Carucci, who I believe made his case to the voters, mentions that Jim went in the HOF on the 1st ballot. Also for what it’s worth, the Bills beat each of their SB rivals the same season or immediately after, each of the SB losses. Unfortunately while I think Brady is probably the GOAT and JK is not in the top 5, I still prefer JK’s tough nosed playing style and attitude as my #1 all time. Talk amongst yourselves...

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