reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Bockeye said: Steve Tasker was saying this exact thing yesterday on One Bills Live. Give him a limited number of plays. Keep the D on the field while not letting them do anything too exotic in terms of blitzing (at least that's what I remember). Did Tasker miss last year's game? I suspect Coach Lynn to blitz the pants off of Josh. Last year he watched Nasty Nate's pre season tape and determined he was not good under pressure. What do you think the Cincinnati game tape will tell him about Josh? It's gonna be up to Daboll to dial something up that takes advantage of the that. Screens or roll outs or something. Extra tight ends. RBs doing pass pro. This 4 or 5 wide no tight end nonsense will be a recipe for disaster IMHO.
BigBuff423 Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I do understand that. But not talking tempo here they play same speed as being in the huddle. Just trying to figure a way to help the rookie with an extra set of eyes And that may be a good approach...and coached properly, it might very well be a terrific way to accomplish that. However, my fear would be that a young man running the no huddle in his first NFL game, might feel as though it's more of a 2-minute Offense, like the K-Gun. I'm not suggesting that's your point, but just that the unintended consequence *might* be Allen's perception of how the no huddle is operating. All of that said, however Daboll and his crew design the Offense for Sunday it needs to adequately account for Allen's strengths and weaknesses, including his status as a Rookie and what they can do to best mitigate that effect. I will be very interested to see how Daboll and the coaches use Allen's skill set and limitations to maximize Offensive output and limit self-inflicted damage.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 Also, the way I would use no huddle is sporadically, throughout the course of the game. Switch up the tempo occasionally. I never understood why teams feel they have to go no huddle all game.
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Here me out this is why. 1. It gives Josh a little help reading defense presnap with the OC in his ear to help (think they shut it off with 10 seconds to go right). 2. Will slow down passrush. The No huddle always does that because it is harder for rotation. 3. To clarify I am not talking throw it all over the yard but more of a Huddle at the line like College does (that is where the game is going IMO). Finally the first play from him I would love to see is 4 wide. Under center. Play action to Shady (they will likey be thinking run to protect the rookie), all WRs run gos. Hits the top of his drop and lets it fly. (Ala the Carolina game). Actually it is 15 seconds, you are going to have to go real fast if you want any help form the OC, again too much pressure for a rookie QBs first start. Making a rookie go fast is the last thing you want him to do.
row_33 Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 they couldn't even figure out what play to call for T'Rod during 2 minute drills down two scores without wasting precious seconds off the clock
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 Not usually a good thing for young QBs.
bills11 Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Here me out this is why. 1. It gives Josh a little help reading defense presnap with the OC in his ear to help (think they shut it off with 10 seconds to go right). 2. Will slow down passrush. The No huddle always does that because it is harder for rotation. 3. To clarify I am not talking throw it all over the yard but more of a Huddle at the line like College does (that is where the game is going IMO). Finally the first play from him I would love to see is 4 wide. Under center. Play action to Shady (they will likey be thinking run to protect the rookie), all WRs run gos. Hits the top of his drop and lets it fly. (Ala the Carolina game). You make great points..but the problem with that is our personnel and lack of discipline. No huddle requires great communication and football intelligence.our offensive line has struggled to even get plays off without false starts and communicating post and pre snap . I can already foresee ducasse or whoever it is on the line blowing assignments.
DuckyBoys Posted September 13, 2018 Posted September 13, 2018 More than worrying about Allen I'd go with whatever helps the O line. I think Allen if given any time will be competent if not even make some exceptional plays The line seems to either get overwhelmed physically or make costly mental errors that kills drives
Shaw66 Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 Sean McVeigh figured this out with Goff. The radio to the QB cuts off with 15 seconds left on the play clock. So what McVeigh did was get the Rams up to the line of scrimmage with more than 20 seconds on the clock. That does two things First, it cuts of substitutions by the defense. Second, it gives the OC time to look at the basic defensive alignment and tell the qb what to look for, maybe to change the play. It helps a young qb who may not be seeing everything yet. Essentially, it allows a coach on the field. Look for it Sunday. 8 1
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 I like the idea, but really concerned about the o-line
GunnerBill Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 Radio about to cut off: Dabol: "Josh they are rushing if you hold it you will get smashed..... kill, kill...... run Immediate Intentional Grounding Drill to the left." 1
Jay_Fixit Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 I hope you’re right Shaw. Watching the Rams operate on offense is a sight to see. I hope Daboll is forward thinking enough to attempt this. And definitely not like the Trent Edwards “no huddle” debacle of years past. 1
Golden*Wheels Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 He still better sit at the line and use every second of clock if this is the case. We can barely afford to be bad slowly, we can't afford to be bad quickly. What we should do regardless of how/when we line up is RUN THE BALL.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Sean McVeigh figured this out with Goff. The radio to the QB cuts off with 15 seconds left on the play clock. So what McVeigh did was get the Rams up to the line of scrimmage with more than 20 seconds on the clock. That does two things First, it cuts of substitutions by the defense. Second, it gives the OC time to look at the basic defensive alignment and tell the qb what to look for, maybe to change the play. It helps a young qb who may not be seeing everything yet. Essentially, it allows a coach on the field. Look for it Sunday. It's a good idea, but I'm not sure Daboll and McDermott have this much savvy. Also, Josh Allen said something in one of this week's interviews about some of their play calls being quite lengthy (it's supposed to be an advantage of P-E to have short calls) so not sure it would be helpful if it hinders communication of the play
Doc Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 I expect to see them do with Josh what the Jets did with Darnold. 1
Fadingpain Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 As an aside, and as has been discussed in the past regarding Patriots' cheating allegations... Who monitors the electronic equipment used by these teams? I'm going to suggest no one. Who verifies before and after games that the equipment is functioning as it is supposed to has not been tampered with? I'm going to suggest no one. If those 2 premises are correct, why in the world aren't we manipulating the headsets so that we can talk to the QB nonstop, whenever we want to? Further, why isn't every team in the NFL? I'm sure the smart organizations are. 1
Figster Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Sean McVeigh figured this out with Goff. The radio to the QB cuts off with 15 seconds left on the play clock. So what McVeigh did was get the Rams up to the line of scrimmage with more than 20 seconds on the clock. That does two things First, it cuts of substitutions by the defense. Second, it gives the OC time to look at the basic defensive alignment and tell the qb what to look for, maybe to change the play. It helps a young qb who may not be seeing everything yet. Essentially, it allows a coach on the field. Look for it Sunday. While I Understand the idea behind it , the Oline needs time to gel before they should be attempting to run a no huddle in my humble opinion. crawl before you walk kinda thing... 2
BillsFan130 Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said: I hope you’re right Shaw. Watching the Rams operate on offense is a sight to see. I hope Daboll is forward thinking enough to attempt this. And definitely not like the Trent Edwards “no huddle” debacle of years past. Ya there are 2 extreme examples to the no huddle. 1. The rams with a brilliant coach, QB, and weapons who run it to perfection 2. The Eagles a few years ago with Chip Kelly who couldn't move the chains and made their defence stay on the field the whole game. I think the Bills would obviously fall under category number 2 as they don't nearly have the coaching and players the Rams do. I wouldn't mind them sprinkling it in, but definitely don't want to see it as there base offence.
Royale with Cheese Posted September 14, 2018 Posted September 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I hope you’re right Shaw. Watching the Rams operate on offense is a sight to see. I hope Daboll is forward thinking enough to attempt this. And definitely not like the Trent Edwards “no huddle” debacle of years past. You mean the no huddle in which we would snap the ball with about 3 seconds left on the play clock?
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