26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Mmmm Okay. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Bears lost too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 He should look at the reasons why he’s wearing that visor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Reminds me of a line from a comedian years ago that went something like this: My wife is pissed off because we don't have any money and I'm pissed off because we did. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) Grudens an idiot...the game has passed him by. Edited September 12, 2018 by COTC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Man that's like Beane wondering why the Bills had no open recievers. ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) Oh another coach who wants to look at the film before spouting off. And this one has a ring. Edited September 12, 2018 by Bob in STL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Gruden will walk away as a VERY wealthy failure, eventually. Then go back to TV if he continues to need attention. Raiders blew it big time. Horrible hire. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 well he's got 10 years & 100 Million Dollars to figure it out... or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Augie said: Gruden will walk away as a VERY wealthy failure, eventually. Then go back to TV if he continues to need attention. Raiders blew it big time. Horrible hire. He is purging the same McBeane did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Paulus said: He is purging the same McBeane did. We purged a HOF player in his prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fadingpain Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, Augie said: Gruden will walk away as a VERY wealthy failure, eventually. Then go back to TV if he continues to need attention. Raiders blew it big time. Horrible hire. Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Augie said: We purged a HOF player in his prime? Russ Brandon did in 2009 with Jason Peters. Mack wasn't playing this year despite being under contract. Oakland is a small market team and paying 2 players 25M per eats up a lot of cap with a number of other contracts coming due. Not many teams can afford a guy like Mack and a top QB. Besides, teams aren't prioritizing defense at the expense of their offense and winning consistently. It's a methodology that doesn't work long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsVet said: Russ Brandon did in 2009 with Jason Peters. Mack wasn't playing this year despite being under contract. Oakland is a small market team and paying 2 players 25M per eats up a lot of cap with a number of other contracts coming due. Not many teams can afford a guy like Mack and a top QB. Besides, teams aren't prioritizing defense at the expense of their offense and winning consistently. It's a methodology that doesn't work long term. Peters was not nearly the player Mack was at the time. He was VERY good, but he was NOT Mack good. (And has never reached THIS level.) I’d have kept him, but that’s a decade ago, so what’s the point of even arguing? Mack will cost about 11% of cap over the contract. Not bad for a top 3 defensive player in the league. A sure HOF player if he keeps it up. But you have a point, spend on the QB, the LT to defend him, and the DE to wreck him. Then go from there. I say build both lines and work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Augie said: We purged a HOF player in his prime? Darbs is nowhere near the player mack is, but the guy has looked good. Dareus, too. I mean, the Bills had no "Mack" to purge, but did purge some of our best. Edited September 12, 2018 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paulus said: Darbs is nowhere near the player mack is, but the guy has looked good. Dareus, too. I mean, the Bills had no "Mack" to purge, but did purge some of our best. Really? We agree, no Mack on this roster. Darby we sold high, and he wasn’t a scheme fit. Dareus wasn’t a “I really want to play football” fit. Sadly, as he could have HOF potential. I hope he finds his fit in life, which is much more important than football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Really? We agree, no Mack on this roster. Darby we sold high, and he wasn’t a scheme fit. Dareus wasn’t a “I really want to play football” fit. Sadly, as he could have HOF potential. I hope he finds his fit in life, which is much more important than football. At least the Raiders got more than we did for Peters. Man, that dude just got better after he left. Look at the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) The deal made sense for both teams. The Raiders are already paying Carr a franchise QB contract and you can't pay another non-qb a massive contract if you want to be competitive long term. Getting two 1st rounders for Mack was probably the right move as you can now build around Carr. It made sense to the Bears because Trubisky is on his rookie contract. Same thing with the Rams shelling out big money on other positions with Goff on his rookie deal. Edited September 12, 2018 by Doc Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Bob in STL said: Oh another coach who wants to look at the film before spouting off. And this one has a ring. Don't hold your breath waiting for him to get a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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