ColdFront_USAF Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 7 hours ago, COTC said: Insecurity....he is not a good gm. That much is apparent. I don't think many fans understand what 50 million in dead cap space means. It's not an afterthought or a small hurdle for a gm, it's a massive handicap that he has to work with. Off the top of my head, I believe the salary cap is around 170M or so. That means almost 30% of the cap this year is unusable for Beane. Do you think there's any way to truly evaluate this guy when he's been handed a roster devoid of talent and left in cap hell by the last gm? If it seems like better teams simply have more talent than us, it's because they have literally 50 million more dollars than us invested in their roster. And before you go there, it's not on Beane. The retirements were unexpected and out of his hands, and the Dareus contract he had to absorb was handed out by Doug Whaley. Lets wait until he is on an even field with the rest of the league to determine weather or not he's any good. 1
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I hate to see any young person waste their talents. It is possible it is not a lack of effort. Endurance is part of talent. Just like everyone is not equally fast, not everyone has equal endurance. He just can't play at his high end the whole game. And he doesn't have the skill set to dial it down to a consistent level that he can play at for the whole game.
GoodHands15 Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ColdFront_USAF said: I don't think many fans understand what 50 million in dead cap space means. It's not an afterthought or a small hurdle for a gm, it's a massive handicap that he has to work with. Off the top of my head, I believe the salary cap is around 170M or so. That means almost 30% of the cap this year is unusable for Beane. Do you think there's any way to truly evaluate this guy when he's been handed a roster devoid of talent and left in cap hell by the last gm? If it seems like better teams simply have more talent than us, it's because they have literally 50 million more dollars than us invested in their roster. And before you go there, it's not on Beane. The retirements were unexpected and out of his hands, and the Dareus contract he had to absorb was handed out by Doug Whaley. Lets wait until he is on an even field with the rest of the league to determine weather or not he's any good. Hot damn! /thread Perfect.
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, GoodHands15 said: Hot damn! /thread Perfect. It should end the thread....but it wont and you know why
oldmanfan Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: It is possible it is not a lack of effort. Endurance is part of talent. Just like everyone is not equally fast, not everyone has equal endurance. He just can't play at his high end the whole game. And he doesn't have the skill set to dial it down to a consistent level that he can play at for the whole game. Perhaps
stony Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 38 minutes ago, COTC said: You don’t have the authority or the experience to judge my posting style. I suggest you stay on topic, your tangents are out there man. For someone with a pot avatar, you're angry. Pack that pipe and chill.
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, ColdFront_USAF said: I don't think many fans understand what 50 million in dead cap space means. It's not an afterthought or a small hurdle for a gm, it's a massive handicap that he has to work with. Off the top of my head, I believe the salary cap is around 170M or so. That means almost 30% of the cap this year is unusable for Beane. Do you think there's any way to truly evaluate this guy when he's been handed a roster devoid of talent and left in cap hell by the last gm? If it seems like better teams simply have more talent than us, it's because they have literally 50 million more dollars than us invested in their roster. And before you go there, it's not on Beane. The retirements were unexpected and out of his hands, and the Dareus contract he had to absorb was handed out by Doug Whaley. Lets wait until he is on an even field with the rest of the league to determine weather or not he's any good. Beane did create a good chunk of this seasons cap hell. I am not saying it is not worth it. But there were other ways to manage it, if they wanted to be more competitive this season.
COTC Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, stony said: For someone with a pot avatar, you're angry. Pack that pipe and chill. I’m not angry. I think you misunderstood my tone.
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, COTC said: I’m not angry. I think you misunderstood my tone. Your just a misunderstood individual we understand lol
COTC Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Your just a misunderstood individual we understand lol Hippo crap avatar guy is back...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 The Bills are not a young team. https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2018-edition/ The age distribution in the NFL is pretty narrow. No one is really "young" or "old". Its the nature of the salary cap and rookie contract rules. But McDermott is lying or clueless to maintain the Bills are a young team. Only 4 teams are older.
reddogblitz Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: On the contrary, it was certainly very obvious to them that they were likely to have problems at OL once Incognito and Wood left, and even more so when they traded Glenn as well. Nobody's dumb enough not to notice this. But they had other priorities they decided to handle first. You can't prioritize everything. Attempting to do so only shows a lack of priorities. Another thing that should be very obvious is that you can't address every weak area each year. They had problems this year at one CB, at LB, at OL, at DL and at WR. Oh, and did I forget QB? There was never a chance to fill all the possible holes so things would look just fine this year. Particularly for a team which had been in serious cap trouble and with a GM who had promised the owner to get rid of that cap problem this year. It simply was not going to happen. It's bizarre to me how people expect every hole to be filled even though it doesn't happen on even the best teams with relatively few holes. It's what makes it difficult to be an NFL GM. There is no perfect solution and even good solutions tend to take several years before things start to look good if you're starting with a lot of holes. And we are. i don't expect them to plug every hole or climb every mountain. but I do expect them to be at least competitive EVERY YEAR. Especially the after we are in the playoffs. May still turn out that way, but early returns are bad.
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, COTC said: Hippo crap avatar guy is back... It was just a suggestion..... 1
Doc Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Beane did create a good chunk of this seasons cap hell. I am not saying it is not worth it. But there were other ways to manage it, if they wanted to be more competitive this season. The vast majority of it was created because they were trying to get ammo to get a franchise QB (trading TT and Glenn), Wood's retirement and dumping Dareus' bad contract. I questioned extending Wood last season but now I get why they did it. And Richie going crazy was not totally expected, but also not unexpected.
djp14150 Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: not quite. should have traded Tyrod last year so we didn't have to give up very valuable draft picks. Otherwise we are right on track. Instead they should have traded with houston and gotten 4OA from them. they do the trade with Cincinnati then move up to 12...they pick the same players at 4 and 12 and still had their 2 2nd and first pick in the 3rd rd. the other forgotten part of the trades of Watkins and Darby is the pkayers acquired aren’t with thus team. 1
bbb Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Quote McBeane's way of rebuilding makes no sense Getting rid of every asset you had and replacing them with former Panthers makes no sense? Hmmm 2 1
Bing Bong Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: What was your prediction for the year? Did you think we'd win eight or nine or ten games? People who predicted a lot of wins this year weren't quite understanding how long it takes to build consistent success when you're switching schemes and the regime before you put you in awful salary cap shape. What was your prediction for last year? 9? Nailed it! I thought we wouldn't be the worst team after that.. ya know all that happened before last year. We just.. uh, call it a bad off-season
snafu Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: At least a decent part of this is their own fault. We are spending cap space on guys that aren't even on the team anymore like Hotrod and Dareus yet the positions they play are huge holes. Would seem to make more sense to pay them and get their services as opposed to paying them and not. I also would add that I don't trust this regime to spend next year's $90 million cap on free agents when they've shown about a 50/50 success rate. They've done pretty well with draft picks, but they have a lot of holes to fill and free agency is going to be key in the offseason.
Heitz Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Best article I've seen on what the Bills are trying to build - not everyone thinks it makes no sense... 2 1
folz Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: The Bills are not a young team. https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2018-edition/ The age distribution in the NFL is pretty narrow. No one is really "young" or "old". Its the nature of the salary cap and rookie contract rules. But McDermott is lying or clueless to maintain the Bills are a young team. Only 4 teams are older. By my count, 12 players who got significant playing time for the Bills in week 1 were either rookies or 2nd year players. The mean age of the team may be average or high, but there are a lot of very young players actually on the field playing...and in some very key roles: QB, middle LB, nickle CB. The team had 9 players on the roster who had never seen a regular season game before. So, I don't think the coach was out of line or lying by saying he has a young team. It isn't about the average age of the team, it's about the lack of experience on the field and a lot of young players that need to be coached up.
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