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  1. 1. Who Is the Worst Starting QB in Bills History (NFL)?

    • Dennis Shaw
      1
    • Joe Ferguson
      0
    • Vince Ferragamo
      12
    • Jim Kelly
      2
    • Todd Collins
      2
    • Doug Flutie
      0
    • Rob Johnson
      4
    • Drew Bledsoe
      1
    • JP Losman
      2
    • Trent Edwards
      1
    • Ryan Fitzpatrick
      0
    • EJ Manuel
      7
    • Kyle Orton
      0
    • Tyrod Taylor
      4
    • Nathan Peterman
      109

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12 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

JACKSONVILLE

 

Remember? He comes in and immediately throws a characteristic Nate style interception. 

 

 

I owe you a beer on that one.  :beer:  

 

You are indeed correct and Pro Football Reference needs to do a better job of categorizing career stats...

 

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Rk Year Date G# Age Tm   Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD
1 2017 2018-01-07 17 23.248 BUF @ JAX L 3-10   1 3 33.33 14 0 1 9.7 0 0 4.67 -10.33 1 4 4.00 0

 

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Kirby Jackson
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I voted Peterman. He is in the running as the worst ever based on what he’s “accomplished.” I’m not even sure that you could make a case for anyone else at this point.

nuklz2594
nuklz2594

billy joe hobert has to be on the list. said he did not know the playbook

MJS
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Drew had some good games, bud.

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This list is lacking some worthy candidates such as Joe Dufek and Bruce Mathison. Probably a few others. Many names that shouldn’t be on there are. Interesting, but flawed. 

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Crazy how this Sweet Nate Pete chap has put McD under a spell.  He was terrible in 2 of his 3 starts.  I thought he played rather well vs the colts in that blizzard game.  

 

But man......this guy is going to be known as the worst an ever.  Not even worst Bill.  The worst QB ever.  Poor guy.

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15 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

This list is lacking some worthy candidates such as Joe Dufek and Bruce Mathison. Probably a few others. Many names that shouldn’t be on there are. Interesting, but flawed. 

 

Joe Dufek:

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       10 5 1-4-0 74 150 49.3 829 4 2.7 8 5.3 64 5.5 3.7 11.2 82.9 52.9 10 86 4.64 2.89 6.3     -1
1983 22 BUF   11 5 0   0 0   0 0   0   0       0.0   0 0           0
1984 23 BUF qb 19 5 5 1-4-0 74 150 49.3 829 4 2.7 8 5.3 64 5.5 3.7 11.2 165.8 52.9 10 86 4.64 2.89 6.3     -1

 

 

Bruce Mathison: 

 
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       18 9 2-7-0 152 309 49.2 2177 7 2.3 20 6.5 60 7.0 4.6 14.3 120.9 53.0 28 252 5.71 3.46 8.3 1 1 6
3 yrs SDG     5 0   3 5 60.0 41 0 0.0 1 20.0 25 8.2 -0.8 13.7 8.2 46.7 0 0 8.20 -0.80 0.0     0
1 yr BUF     10 7 1-6-0 113 228 49.6 1635 4 1.8 14 6.1 60 7.2 4.8 14.5 163.5 53.5 22 203 5.73 3.53 8.8     4
1 yr SEA     3 2 1-1-0 36 76 47.4 501 3 3.9 5 6.6 47 6.6 4.4 13.9 167.0 54.8 6 49 5.51 3.50 7.3 1 1 2
1983 24 SDG   12 1 0   3 5 60.0 41 0 0.0 1 20.0 25 8.2 -0.8 13.7 41.0 46.7 0 0 8.20 -0.80 0.0     0
1984 25 SDG   12 2 0   0 0   0 0   0   0       0.0   0 0           0
1985 26 BUF qb 7 10 7 1-6-0 113 228 49.6 1635 4 1.8 14 6.1 60 7.2 4.8 14.5 163.5 53.5 22 203 5.73 3.53 8.8     4
1986 27 SDG   7 2 0   0 0   0 0   0   0       0.0   0 0           0
1987 28 SEA qb 11 3 2 1-1-0 36 76 47.4 501 3 3.9 5 6.6 47 6.6 4.4 13.9 167.0 54.8 6 49 5.51 3.50 7.3 1 1 2

 

 

Nathan Peterman:

 
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       5 3 1-2-0 29 67 43.3 276 2 3.0 7 10.4 21 4.1 0.0 9.5 55.2 25.7   4 17 3.65 -0.23 5.6     1
2017 23 BUF qb 2 4 2 1-1-0 24 49 49.0 252 2 4.1 5 10.2 21 5.1 1.4 10.5 63.0 38.4 13.8 1 5 4.94 1.24 2.0     1
2018 24 BUF QB 2 1 1 0-1-0 5 18 27.8 24 0 0.0 2 11.1 10 1.3 -3.7 4.8 24.0 0.0   3 12 0.57 -3.71 14.3      

 

Nate's head and shoulders worse than those guys, both in QBR and passing yardage per game...

 

 

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5 minutes ago, CuddyDark said:

Alex Van Pelt.

 

Alex looks like a Wall of Famer compared to Peterman...

 

Alex Van Pelt:

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       31 11 3-8-0 262 477 54.9 2985 16 3.4 24 5.0 80 6.3 4.7 11.4 96.3 64.1 19 113 5.79 4.26 3.8 1 3 7
1995 25 BUF   10 1 0   10 18 55.6 106 2 11.1 0 0.0 19 5.9 8.1 10.6 106.0 110.0 0 0 5.89 8.11 0.0     0
1996 26 BUF   10 1 0   2 5 40.0 9 0 0.0 0 0.0 5 1.8 1.8 4.5 9.0 47.9 0 0 1.80 1.80 0.0     0
1997 27 BUF qb 10 6 3 1-2-0 60 124 48.4 684 2 1.6 10 8.1 39 5.5 2.2 11.4 114.0 37.2 4 33 5.09 1.88 3.1 0 1 2
1998 28 BUF   10 1 0   0 0   0 0   0   0       0.0   0 0           0
1999 29 BUF   10 1 0   1 1 100.0 9 0 0.0 0 0.0 9 9.0 9.0 9.0 9.0 104.2 0 0 9.00 9.00 0.0     0
2000 30 BUF   10 1 0   4 8 50.0 67 0 0.0 0 0.0 36 8.4 8.4 16.8 67.0 78.6 0 0 8.38 8.38 0.0 0 1 0
2001 31 BUF QB 10 12 8 2-6-0 178 307 58.0 2056 12 3.9 11 3.6 80 6.7 5.9 11.6 171.3 76.4 14 73 6.18 5.38 4.4 1 1 5
2002 32 BUF   10 2 0   2 2 100.0 5 0 0.0 0 0.0 4 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 79.2 0 0 2.50 2.50 0.0     0
2003 33 BUF   10 6 0   5 12 41.7 49 0 0.0 3 25.0 14 4.1 -7.2 9.8 8.2 14.2 1 7 3.23 -7.15 7.7     0

 

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1 hour ago, GRHater69 said:

Only thing I would argue is that Miami wasn't in the league as long as the Jets or Patriots. It's a bad stat line for the Bills, but 2 of those QBs Totten and McClure were during the '87 strike games, not that you should toss those numbers, but it's not as bad as on the surface. And Manucci never actually started a game per the OP. For me the biggest bust was Ferragamo. I thought he would come in here and help turn things around, but he was terrible.

 

 

 

 

 

Got it from data on Pro Football Reference.

FWIW Manucci is listed a s starting a 1987 game against the Colts going 7 of 20 with 2 INTs and a rating of 5.8.

I've been a fan since the mid 60's and there has been plenty of bad QBs.

Peterman is now in that group.

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39 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

This list is lacking some worthy candidates such as Joe Dufek and Bruce Mathison. Probably a few others. Many names that shouldn’t be on there are. Interesting, but flawed. 

 

It's limited to QBs who've won the starting role; otherwise it would be 732 QBs listed on there.

 

Not only does it save space and time, but it also highlights QBs who've actually been chosen as the preferred choice to start a game, rather than some clipboard holder who gets a start or two due to the real starter being injured.

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16 minutes ago, Idandria said:

Brian Brohm should be on the list, and he was awful. 

 

So far, Nate's got him beat...

 

Brian Brohm:

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       3 2 0-2-0 27 52 51.9 252 0 0.0 5 9.6 33 4.8 0.5 9.3 84.0 26.0   5 13 4.19 0.25 8.8     0
2009 24 BUF qb 4 2 1 0-1-0 17 29 58.6 146 0 0.0 2 6.9 15 5.0 1.9 8.6 73.0 43.2 18.0 2 8 4.45 1.55 6.5     0
2010 25 BUF qb 4 1 1 0-1-0 10 23 43.5 106 0 0.0 3 13.0 33 4.6 -1.3 10.6 106.0 17.9 19.2 3 5 3.88 -1.31 11.5     0
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You forgot Joe Dufek. Of course, that would be easy to do being the qb during part of that 1984-85 Bills. Back to back 2-14 seasons!

If you thought Sunday's performance was bad, that's how the Bills were back then on a week to week basis!!  They just flat out stunk.

Who was the Bills qb during those "scab" games back in '86? or '87 was it? Would he count in this thread?

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2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

This list is lacking some worthy candidates such as Joe Dufek and Bruce Mathison. Probably a few others. Many names that shouldn’t be on there are. Interesting, but flawed. 

Amen brother. Those two guys were bad. Some Bills trivia: Mathison was the last qb before Kelly arrived. The rest is history.

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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

I was there. He started. It was horrible.

 

That was due to them putting Trent on IR.  He didn't win the job.

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5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Youre so anal

 

I thought we agreed to keep these kinds of conversations in PMs.

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9 hours ago, Rico said:

Still Drew Bledsoe. Peterman is comfortably in 2nd place.

C'mon man...not even close!

 

Every guy on that list, except Peterman, had some degree of success.  Peterman has stunk in every apperence...as one old enough to remember them all, I have to say Peterman, by a long shot.  Two starts, two losses that were so bad, he had to be yanked before the game was even over.  Even Jeff Tuel (who I have heard him compared to a few times in the last 24 hours) and Thad Lewis played well enough to keep their teams in games, until making one fatal blunder...he has QB'd two of historically awful Bills offensive performances.

 

 

4 hours ago, RevWarRifleman said:

Amen brother. Those two guys were bad. Some Bills trivia: Mathison was the last qb before Kelly arrived. The rest is history.

If I recall thouhg,  both Dufek and Mathison, had a few games that they kept the team in the game, before making mistakes to lose the game...I think Mathison even had a 300 yard game,. somewhere along the way.  

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13 minutes ago, Buftex said:

C'mon man...not even close!

 

Every guy on that list, except Peterman, had some degree of success.  Peterman has stunk in every apperence...as one old enough to remember them all, I have to say Peterman, by a long shot.  Two starts, two losses that were so bad, he had to be yanked before the game was even over.  Even Jeff Tuel (who I have heard him compared to a few times in the last 24 hours) and Thad Lewis played well enough to keep their teams in games, until making one fatal blunder...he has QB'd two of historically awful Bills offensive performances.

 

 

If I recall thouhg,  both Dufek and Mathison, had a few games that they kept the team in the game, before making mistakes to lose the game...I think Mathison even had a 300 yard game,. somewhere along the way.  

You're not seeing the forest from the trees. Think of overall impact to the franchise! :lol:

 

Mathison sucked, but I liked watching him run around.

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10 hours ago, Buftex said:

C'mon man...not even close!

 

Every guy on that list, except Peterman, had some degree of success.  Peterman has stunk in every apperence...as one old enough to remember them all, I have to say Peterman, by a long shot.  Two starts, two losses that were so bad, he had to be yanked before the game was even over.  Even Jeff Tuel (who I have heard him compared to a few times in the last 24 hours) and Thad Lewis played well enough to keep their teams in games, until making one fatal blunder...he has QB'd two of historically awful Bills offensive performances.

 

 

If I recall thouhg,  both Dufek and Mathison, had a few games that they kept the team in the game, before making mistakes to lose the game...I think Mathison even had a 300 yard game,. somewhere along the way.  

You got a better memory than I. Those seasons were highly forgetable.

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