Who Is the Worst Starting QB in Bills History (NFL)?

[Wo-Bah]

I am not sure.  I did see Farragamo play.  I remember him being pretty brutal.

[BillsSbSoon]

How can it not be peterman at this point? Weve seen some bad ones but np is epically bad. he cant even get a first down for f's sakes

[DC Tom]

I voted Jim Kelly, just because I'm "that guy."

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

Still Drew Bledsoe. Peterman is comfortably in 2nd place.

 

Drew had some good games, bud.

[Rico]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

Drew had some good games, bud.

The negatives far, FAR outweigh the positives. He was a coach and GM-killer, and he is responsible for the drought not ending in 2004. Everyone else on the list just sucked.

[Starr Almighty]

I'm quite surprised Nate is running away with this....who would of thunk it?

[DrDawkinstein]

Poll is invalid with no Brian Brohm

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, Rico said:

The negatives far, FAR outweigh the positives. He was a coach and GM-killer, and he is responsible for the drought not ending in 2004. Everyone else on the list just sucked.

 

I see your points, but I disagree with them. He was a far better QB than JP Losman or EJ Manuel or especially Nathan Peterman.

 

But we all have our reasons for hating certain guys.

[brianb386]

39 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

billy joe hobert has to be on the list. said he did not know the playbook

I don't believe he started a game, he took over when Collins was inured IIRC. Also, it is debatable who played worse, him or Peterman.

[GRHater69]

Ah yes, Billy Joe Hobert, or as Jim Rome called him, Billy Joe Gunrack. You're right he never started. I would also add Gary Marangi to that list. But there was time in the preseason where people thought he was a better option than Ferguson. So even back in the 70s preseason was misleading.

 

I'm a bit older and have seen a lot of bad QB play. People need to remember that at one time Dennis Shaw was a rookie of the year after the '70 season. Then the following year the Bills put him out behind one of the worst offensive lines ever and he got killed. In a week 2 game at Minnesota he was sacked 9 times if memory serves. That was the '71 team that went 1-13 with OJ Simpson I might add. Bad line, terrible coaching (Harvey Johnson).....sound familiar?? Bottom line, you start Allen for the simple reason his name isn't Peterman, but be careful what you wish for. 

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Tyler Thigpen was pretty bad, Billy Joe Hobert, Brian Brohm.

 

But Nate Peterman has been a turnover machine, 2.1 games played, 8 interceptions. 

[ColoradoBills]

Here are Buffalo Bills worse "Top 20" QBs stats while a Buffalo Bill sorted by QB Rating.

Kelly career had an 84.4 Rating.

 

Rk	Player	From	To	G	GS	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	TD%	Int%	Rate	Sk
1	Bob Brodhead	1960	1960	4	1	7	25	28	75	0	3	0	12	0
2	Tom Flores	1967	1969	17	4	27	74	36.49	291	0	9	0	12.16	9.3	1
3	Al Dorow	1962	1962	4	4	30	75	40	333	2	7	2.7	9.33	23.9
4	Nathan Peterman	2017	2018	5	3	29	67	43.28	276	2	7	3	10.45	25.7	4
5	Brian Brohm	2009	2010	3	2	27	52	51.92	252	0	5	0	9.62	26	5
6	Ed Rutkowski	1963	1968	83	3	41	102	40.2	380	0	6	0	5.88	26.6
7	Dan Manucci	1979	1987	19	1	12	27	44.44	132	0	2	0	7.41	28.6	8
8	Dan Darragh	1968	1970	17	11	127	296	42.91	1353	4	22	1.4	7.43	30.4	16
9	Kay Stephenson	1968	1968	10	3	29	79	36.71	364	4	7	5.1	8.86	31.8
10	Brian McClure	1987	1987	1	1	20	38	52.63	181	0	3	0	7.89	32.9	2
11	Gary Marangi	1974	1976	19	7	104	283	36.75	1373	12	21	4.2	7.42	36.1	25
12	M.C. Reynolds	1961	1961	12	3	83	181	45.86	1004	2	13	1.1	7.18	37.2
13	Tommy O'Connell	1960	1961	15	7	66	150	44	1044	7	14	4.7	9.33	44.4
14	Jeff Tuel	2013	2014	2	1	26	59	44.07	309	1	3	1.7	5.08	45.1	2
15	Richie Lucas	1960	1961	22	9	43	99	43.43	596	4	7	4	7.07	47.4
16	Willie Totten	1987	1987	2	1	13	33	39.39	155	2	2	6.1	6.06	49.4	5
17	Vince Ferragamo	1985	1985	10	9	149	287	51.92	1677	5	17	1.7	5.92	50.8	19
18	James Harris	1969	1971	18	3	90	189	47.62	1120	5	11	2.6	5.82	51	32
19	Joe Dufek	1983	1984	10	5	74	150	49.33	829	4	8	2.7	5.33	52.9	10
20	Bruce Mathison	1985	1985	10	7	113	228	49.56	1635	4	14	1.8	6.14	53.5	22

 

Buffalo has had 16 QBs with a below 50 rating.

Jets and New England has both had 8 under 50 rating.

Miami has had 3 under 50.

To give some context to the numbers.

Edited September 10, 2018 by ColoradoBills

[GRHater69]

Only thing I would argue is that Miami wasn't in the league as long as the Jets or Patriots. It's a bad stat line for the Bills, but 2 of those QBs Totten and McClure were during the '87 strike games, not that you should toss those numbers, but it's not as bad as on the surface. And Manucci never actually started a game per the OP. For me the biggest bust was Ferragamo. I thought he would come in here and help turn things around, but he was terrible.

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

Dan Darragh get's my vote...

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					17	11	1-10-0	127	296	42.9	1353	4	1.4	22	7.4	53	4.6	1.5	10.7	79.6	30.4	16	139	3.89	0.97	5.1	1	0	-2
1968	22	BUF	QB	10	11	7	1-6-0	92	215	42.8	917	3	1.4	14	6.5	41	4.3	1.6	10.0	83.4	33.0						1	0	-3
1969	23	BUF	qb	10	3	2	0-2-0	24	52	46.2	365	1	1.9	6	11.5	53	7.0	2.2	15.2	121.7	36.6	11	103	4.16	0.19	17.5			1
1970	24	BUF	qb	10	3	2	0-2-0	11	29	37.9	71	0	0.0	2	6.9	19	2.4	-0.7	6.5	23.7	17.5	5	36	1.03	-1.62	14.7			0

 

Bingo...it's amazing how young some of the fans are.  Dan Darragh was a mess.

[row_33]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

 

Drew had some good games, bud.

 

Bledsoe was at worst the 3rd best QB for the Bills since Kelly

 

 

[Lurker]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

But Nate Peterman has been a turnover machine, 2.1 games played, 8 interceptions. 

 

Man, Nate's so bad he must have thrown an INT on the team bus...

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					5	3	1-2-0	29	67	43.3	276	2	3.0	7	10.4	21	4.1	0.0	9.5	55.2	25.7		4	17	3.65	-0.23	5.6			1
2017	23	BUF	qb	2	4	2	1-1-0	24	49	49.0	252	2	4.1	5	10.2	21	5.1	1.4	10.5	63.0	38.4	13.8	1	5	4.94	1.24	2.0			1
2018	24	BUF	QB	2	1	1	0-1-0	5	18	27.8	24	0	0.0	2	11.1	10	1.3	-3.7	4.8	24.0	0.0		3	12	0.57	-3.71	14.3

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Poll is invalid with no Brian Brohm

 

Brian Brohm never won the starting job.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

17 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Man, Nate's so bad he must have thrown an INT on the team bus...

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					5	3	1-2-0	29	67	43.3	276	2	3.0	7	10.4	21	4.1	0.0	9.5	55.2	25.7		4	17	3.65	-0.23	5.6			1
2017	23	BUF	qb	2	4	2	1-1-0	24	49	49.0	252	2	4.1	5	10.2	21	5.1	1.4	10.5	63.0	38.4	13.8	1	5	4.94	1.24	2.0			1
2018	24	BUF	QB	2	1	1	0-1-0	5	18	27.8	24	0	0.0	2	11.1	10	1.3	-3.7	4.8	24.0	0.0		3	12	0.57	-3.71	14.3

JACKSONVILLE

 

Remember? He comes in and immediately throws a characteristic Nate style interception. 

16 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Brian Brohm never won the starting job.

 

Remember when Bills fans thought that Brian Brohm deserved his chance to start? I do. 

 

 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Remember when Bills fans thought that Brian Brohm deserved his chance to start? I do. 

 

I certainly do.  I also remember when Bills fans were begging to get Billy Volek.

[Domdab99]

Who voted for Joe Ferguson??

 

i want to fight you.