Scott7975 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 6 hours ago, CLTbills said: I agree... however I think anyone that watched the preseason would agree that Peterman won the job and looked the best out of the 3 QB's we had. Everything that he had showed us, showed us that he was a halfway competent NFL QB. Now, why that's not transferring to the Regular Season? I have no clue. Something loose upstairs? All I'm saying is, hindsight is always 20/20. Not a single person saw this happening after how good Peterman performed in the preseason. Disclaimer : I am NOT A PETERMAN FAN! I'm just trying to look at it objectively. Horse manure. Plenty of people on this board, including myself, were not fooled by preseason.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:02 AM, reddogblitz said: I really didn't want him to play at all this year, but as the roster stands now, we have no choice. ...big BOGO sale on gurneys this weekend at Galleria......
Scott7975 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 5 hours ago, mannc said: The fact that it is Tuesday morning and Peterman has not been released yet is a very bad sign. It shows McBeane’s delusional thinking and inability to evaluate the most important position in sports. They aren't going to just release a QB without a replacement that knows the offense.
LB3 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Peterman should start and will. Allen is the better QB by far, but I see this like Trent's last year. Peterman won the competition in camp. McD named him the starter. He was an absolute disaster. Throw him out there for one more game to see if he has any chance at shrugging it off and becoming a backup for Allen at least for this season. If he's awful again, name Allen the starter for week 3, bring in a vet backup, and cut Peterman week 4 after the vet has had a little time with the playbook. We are going nowhere this season, so one extra game of getting beat up isn't going to mean much for Allen's development.
Scott7975 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Peterman should start and will. Allen is the better QB by far, but I see this like Trent's last year. Peterman won the competition in camp. McD named him the starter. He was an absolute disaster. Throw him out there for one more game to see if he has any chance at shrugging it off and becoming a backup for Allen at least for this season. If he's awful again, name Allen the starter for week 3, bring in a vet backup, and cut Peterman week 4 after the vet has had a little time with the playbook. We are going nowhere this season, so one extra game of getting beat up isn't going to mean much for Allen's development. Peterman doesn't need another chance. The dude is worse than Jeff Tuel. Why waste time? You are disappointing your team and the fans by doing so. Allen may have a lot to learn but he can learn it on the field like many a QB before him. A lot of people learn better by doing than watching. 2
LB3 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Just now, Scott7975 said: Peterman doesn't need another chance. The dude is worse than Jeff Tuel. Why waste time? You are disappointing your team and the fans by doing so. Allen may have a lot to learn but he can learn it on the field like many a QB before him. A lot of people learn better by doing than watching. I expected to lose the first 4 games and was hoping Peterman could be a backup so I'm really not that disappointed. Like I said, I don't think throwing Peterman out there one more week while they look for a vet backup is a big deal. People will be just as excited for Allen in week 3, and they'll be just as disappointed when he looks like a rookie against a tough Minnesota defense. Allen will still get nearly a full seasons worth of starting experience.
reddogblitz Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Peterman should start and will. Allen is the better QB by far, but I see this like Trent's last year. Peterman won the competition in camp. McD named him the starter. He was an absolute disaster. Throw him out there for one more game to see if he has any chance at shrugging it off and becoming a backup for Allen at least for this season. If he's awful again, name Allen the starter for week 3, bring in a vet backup, and cut Peterman week 4 after the vet has had a little time with the playbook. We are going nowhere this season, so one extra game of getting beat up isn't going to mean much for Allen's development. I'm sorry man. I can't for the life of me adopt a loser mentality like that. We were good last year, there was no need to fly it into the ground like it appears so far anyway they have done. Coach McDermott made his team over perform and and BILLIEVE for once and make the team greater than the sum of it's parts. I expect him to do the same this year. Edited September 11, 2018 by reddogblitz 2
Fadingpain Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: The decision to trade McCarron is looking pretty iffy. It looks straight up bad. The QB situation might turn into more of a mess than it already is. These guys are painted into a corner. Keep playing Nate to protect the development of Allen, and we likely keep getting killed and the coach loses the room. They can throw in Allen, but they have told us by not starting him in Baltimore that he is not ready. So now you are prematurely starting the most important player in the franchise right now b/c you screwed up the QB situation. Option 3 would have been to play the veteran, AJ, and hope for the best, but they got rid of him. If Nate starts again and can't even get through the f-ing game, it's going to get really ugly. McD is going to get it from all sides, including his own players. Edited September 11, 2018 by Fadingpain
LB3 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'm sorry man. I can't for the life of me adopt a loser mentality like that. We were good last year, there was no need to fly it into the ground like it appears so far anyway they have done. Coach McDermott made his team over perform and and BILLIEVE for once and make the team greater than the sum of it's parts. I expect him to do the same this year. I'm pretty optimistic about Allen in the coming years. I just don't see the Bills contending for anything but a high draft pick this year with their lack of talent. I'll save my winner mentality for something it has any effect on.
mannc Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 Allen gives the Bills the best chance to win. Period. Peterman gives them zero chance to win. 36 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: They aren't going to just release a QB without a replacement that knows the offense. Logan Thomas gives them a better chance to win than Peterman.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 The only logic behind starting Peterman would be that you are terrified that Allen will get sacked 7 times, run for his life, concussed and pretty much ruin his career before he even has a legit chance to learn the game and develop. I am all for real game experience for rookie QBs but not if that experience is just getting beaten over the head again and again.
SouthNYfan Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 I voted nate should start but won't. My premise that he should stat has nothing to do with anything other than I don't want Allen killed against the chargers dline. Np sucks, but I'm okay with giving Chum to the sharks for a couple of weeks until we get past the death-dlines upcoming.
purple haze Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 If McD trots Peterman out there Sunday I will be pissed. Especially after buying a plane ticket and game tickets before the season started. I don't want to see that joker Peterman on the field another second. His skills are straight, no chaser, ? He is a bridge to nowhere. Let Allen play, learn, take his adversities and overcome.
mannc Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: I voted nate should start but won't. My premise that he should stat has nothing to do with anything other than I don't want Allen killed against the chargers dline. You mean the Charger d-line that gave up 48 points at home to a qb making his second NFL start?
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'm sorry man. I can't for the life of me adopt a loser mentality like that. We were good last year, there was no need to fly it into the ground like it appears so far anyway they have done. Coach McDermott made his team over perform and and BILLIEVE for once and make the team greater than the sum of it's parts. I expect him to do the same this year. I can McDermott in his best Knute Rockne voice "Win one for the Peterman, because we sure as hell can't let #17 get hurt." 2 minutes ago, mannc said: You mean the Charger d-line that gave up 48 points at home to a qb making his second NFL start? We are saving Allen for the bubble wrap flag football games they do later in the season. 1 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: The only logic behind starting Peterman would be that you are terrified that Allen will get sacked 7 times, run for his life, concussed and pretty much ruin his career before he even has a legit chance to learn the game and develop. I am all for real game experience for rookie QBs but not if that experience is just getting beaten over the head again and again. I hear this argument and wonder what about Peterman makes you think he will not suffer the same fate and then Allen would need to play. The getting hurt argument does not hold water. At this point i can not think of a reason to start Peterman.
reddogblitz Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: I'm pretty optimistic about Allen in the coming years. I just don't see the Bills contending for anything but a high draft pick this year with their lack of talent. I'll save my winner mentality for something it has any effect on. Go for it. Go BILLS !! 1
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I hear this argument and wonder what about Peterman makes you think he will not suffer the same fate and then Allen would need to play. The getting hurt argument does not hold water. At this point i can not think of a reason to start Peterman. He might get hurt he might not. Whether he does or does not you are guaranteed to expose Allen to less abuse even if it means Allen has to come in halfway through the first quarter. The game we should really be concerned about is @ Minnesota week 3. I really didn't want Allen playing in that game at all unless he and the team were both looking competent. Starting Allen against the Chargers probably guarantees he will also start at Minnesota.
Figster Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, purple haze said: If McD trots Peterman out there Sunday I will be pissed. Especially after buying a plane ticket and game tickets before the season started. I don't want to see that joker Peterman on the field another second. His skills are straight, no chaser, ? He is a bridge to nowhere. Let Allen play, learn, take his adversities and overcome. Conservative run heavy game plan that keeps the Charger O off the field works for me. (Allen behind center) I hope fans like you are a big part of why McD goes with the rookie. Every week through the regular season die hard Bills fans spend hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars of hard earned money to watch the Buffalo Bills live and desrve to see the best team the Bills can put on the football field IMO. Edited September 11, 2018 by Figster
SouthNYfan Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, mannc said: You mean the Charger d-line that gave up 48 points at home to a qb making his second NFL start? They gave up 38 points. Not 48. They also have a very very good dline. They didn't have bosa. Bosa might not play next week either. If he doesn't play we will only get sacked 6x instead of 10x. Chiefs had an above average oline last year, which looks even better this year. They also have one of the best offenses in football. Our oline is a pile of crap at best. Our offense sucks. Edited September 11, 2018 by SouthNYfan
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