John in Jax Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:55 AM, Johnnycage46 said: Agreed. He is almost single handedly beating GB. Not many like him in the NFL on D that that instantly take over a game. Expand I agree that Mack is a very good player, but honestly, on the pick-6, he was in the right place at the right time....it was thrown....lobbed.... right to him.
Beast Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Once again, TBD doctors correct with their prognosis.
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) On 9/10/2018 at 1:56 AM, Jasovon said: The way i look at it, would you trade EJ Manuel and Aaron Maybin for Mack? How about JP Losman and CJ Spiller? Sammy Watkins and Donte Whitner? Expand Also, assuming you would have to use a 1st to get him. think of it as adding another one to trade up for a guaranteed HOF player. We did it for Watkins and Saints did it for Davenport this year. Edited September 10, 2018 by Chemical 1
Boatdrinks Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:54 AM, Bangarang said: I sure wouldn’t want my team to acquire elite players. That’s not how you get better. Expand I want them to. They’re so far off Mack will be 30 before this team will be close. The OL is worst in the league and those guys don’t get found in FA very often. Elite WRs are getting close to QB money if you can get one. Most good teams were comprised mostly of draft picks. Mack is great, but it’s like putting a pissed off exhaust system on a fiat.
TheFunPolice Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Must be no real ligament damage if Rogers is coming back, right?
Jasovon Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:58 AM, Chemical said: Also, assuming you would have to use a 1st to get him. think of it as adding another one to trade up for a guaranteed HOF player. We did it for Watkins and Saints did it for Davenport this year. Expand Great point.
Johnnycage46 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:57 AM, John in Jax said: I agree that Mack is a very good player, but honestly, on the pick-6, he was in the right place at the right time....it was thrown....lobbed.... right to him. Expand I can get on board with that, but he does seem to be in on everything tonight.
Watkins90 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 You guys can believe what you want. I don't think Mack, with the current roster we have, was worth two first round picks. It was for the Bears because they already had key people in place. Mack is a luxury, not a necessity for them. 1
stony Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:56 AM, Boatdrinks said: He probably couldn’t have been. Raiders wanted to trade him out of conference . They gave two firsts. What would it have taken to persuade them to mov eMack in conference. The Jets and Browns wanted him too. It’s not all that simple. The Bears have a QB already and a top ten D. They were building toward this. The Bills are still at ground zero and need to draft a top WR and OL. Heck, maybe even another QB. They just weren’t close enough to make that deal. Expand Fair enough. I will say, DE/OLB is one of the few positions I'd upgrade at anytime regardless of where the rebuild/roster is at. From a Bills perspective, paying Mack makes way more sense than a OBJ or other skill position.
BillsFan130 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) On 9/10/2018 at 1:56 AM, Jasovon said: The way i look at it, would you trade EJ Manuel and Aaron Maybin for Mack? How about JP Losman and CJ Spiller? Sammy Watkins and Donte Whitner? Expand But that is just poor drafting. There is a reason the bills missed the playoffs for 18 years. You need to draft well to be successful. Can’t build a team through free agency/trades as you would be way over the cap/have minimal draft picks for long term success/depth Edited September 10, 2018 by billsfan11
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:55 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Expand Kind of looking forward to seeing him play in person in a few weeks, is it bad I’m hoping he’s ok?
stony Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 2:03 AM, billsfan11 said: But that is just poor drafting. There is a reason the bills missed the playoffs for 18 years. You need to draft well to be successful. Can’t build a team through free agency/trades as you would be way over the cap/have minimal draft picks for long term success/depth Expand I'm all for draft capital, but most teams draft poorly. 1
Ol Dirty B Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:56 AM, Jasovon said: The way i look at it, would you trade EJ Manuel and Aaron Maybin for Mack? How about JP Losman and CJ Spiller? Sammy Watkins and Donte Whitner? Expand Hockey has ruined this fanbase. I'm convinced of it tonight get that stupid team with their boring sport out of town. Bills fans talk about prospects and the practice squad like building a farm team. We can't give up 2 firsts for a player like Mack because of **** like that. They don't get it. 2
Jasovon Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 2:04 AM, Ol Dirty B said: Hockey has ruined this fanbase. I'm convinced of it tonight get that stupid team with their boring sport out of town. Bills fans talk about prospects and the practice squad like building a farm team. We can't give up 2 firsts for a player like Mack because of **** like that. They don't get it. Expand Mack isn't just a solid linebacker. He's an All Pro generational talent. We haven't had a player like that probably since Bruce Smith. 1 1
26CornerBlitz Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:28 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Gimme that! Expand
Scott7975 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 2:06 AM, Jasovon said: Mack isn't just a solid linebacker. He's an All Pro generational talent. We haven't had a player like that probably since Bruce Smith. Expand He is an all pro at two positions. I wanted him bad but I knew Beane wouldn’t go after him. I wonder if we had him instead of Watkins would Beane had traded Mack away too.
whatdrought Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 *Imitating cheese head guy from state-farm commercial* "RODGEEEEERRRS!!"
Ol Dirty B Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 2:04 AM, stony said: I'm all for draft capital, but most teams draft poorly. Expand These people will never understand that. It's a pretty simple concept, the proven is better than the unknown. Especially a player like Mack. Instead they go on about you need more shots in the draft because you're gonna miss. Even though the hits will rarely, if ever, be as good as Mack. It's nonsense. On 9/10/2018 at 2:09 AM, Scott7975 said: He is an all pro at two positions. I wanted him bad but I knew Beane wouldn’t go after him. I wonder if we had him instead of Watkins would Beane had traded Mack away too. Expand Please don't make me ponder this hypothetical tonight.
Flutie Flakes Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 1:56 AM, billsfan11 said: Well of course in the short term it’s a great trade for the bears. We will see about the long term though Expand Like I said before, given the Bears poor first round history, the trade made sense. Mack is an amazing talent, so I believe the long term bodes well for Da Bears also. The guy is clearly a game changer and I don't see that changing barring injury of course.
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