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1 minute ago, Watkins90 said:

Yup. Mack will be a Hall of Fame player. The Bears have a stacked roster they made better with getting Mack. They could afford to not have two first round picks for him because of that. 

 

If it would have just been a first and maybe a future second or third, yes. Go for it. But Buffalo is going to need all it can to improve this roster. 

 

You guys act like Mack is coming off of several Super Bowl victories. The Raiders never made it out of the Wild Card without him. 

 

If we got Mack and were still terrible this year and next. Everyone would be screaming that it was a stupid move around the draft. 

 

Bills fans want to preserve that first round pick so they can pound the table to take a guard with it. 

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2 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

Yup. Mack will be a Hall of Fame player. The Bears have a stacked roster they made better with getting Mack. They could afford to not have two first round picks for him because of that. 

 

If it would have just been a first and maybe a future second or third, yes. Go for it. But Buffalo is going to need all it can to improve this roster. 

 

You guys act like Mack is coming off of several Super Bowl victories. The Raiders never made it out of the Wild Card without him. 

 

If we got Mack and were still terrible this year and next. Everyone would be screaming that it was a stupid move around the draft. 

Thought you were referring to Bears roster. Still bad timing for sure. 

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2 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

Draft picks are so overvalued. 

 

We are likely going to have a very high pick which we can use on Bosa or Oliver. That gives us the elite pass rusher we need without sacrificing any future picks or cap space.

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3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It helps, of course. Just wouldn’t look anything like da Bears. 

 

What does your crystal ball say it will look like?

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2 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

Yup. Mack will be a Hall of Fame player. The Bears have a stacked roster they made better with getting Mack. They could afford to not have two first round picks for him because of that. 

 

If it would have just been a first and maybe a future second or third, yes. Go for it. But Buffalo is going to need all it can to improve this roster. 

 

You guys act like Mack is coming off of several Super Bowl victories. The Raiders never made it out of the Wild Card without him. 

 

If we got Mack and were still terrible this year and next. Everyone would be screaming that it was a stupid move around the draft. 

 

Fans are going to B word regardless. You accumulate talent. This team has been doing the opposite for 2 years now 

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Just now, Boatdrinks said:

It helps, of course. Just wouldn’t look anything like da Bears. 

True.  But ours was so f'ing anemic I just wanna dream.  

 

In a day w/o any positives, I'm just pretending Mack coulda been ours.  Sad, I know.

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2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It helps, of course. Just wouldn’t look anything like da Bears. 

 

I disagree, but it is all speculation at this point.  The guy is a game changer.  Substitute Lawson for Mack and I think our defense looks a lot different.  

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Just now, Boatdrinks said:

A dog pile with a diamond on top. 

 

I sure wouldn’t want my team to acquire elite players. That’s not how you get better.

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3 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

Draft picks are so overvalued. 

In which way? Sure your chances of missing are somewhat high if that’s what you’re referring to.

 

But there are other factors like having them under rookie contracts, 4 to 5 years younger/fresher.

 

So if you hit on those draft picks, you’re going to be a perennial contender for a long time 

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6 minutes ago, Flutie Flakes said:

 

Given the Bears first round draft history, yeah they are loving this move.  The guy is a game changer.  

Well of course in the short term it’s a great trade for the bears. We will see about the long term though 

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Just now, billsfan11 said:

In which way? Sure your chances of missing are somewhat high if that’s what you’re referring to.

 

But there are other factors like having them under rookie contracts, 4 to 5 years younger/fresher.

 

So if you hit on those draft picks, you’re going to be a perennial contender for a long time 

The way i look at it, would you trade EJ Manuel and Aaron Maybin for Mack? How about JP Losman and CJ Spiller? Sammy Watkins and Donte Whitner? 

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Just now, stony said:

True.  But ours was so f'ing anemic I just wanna dream.  

 

In a day w/o any positives, I'm just pretending Mack coulda been ours.  Sad, I know.

He probably couldn’t have been. Raiders wanted to trade him out of conference . They gave two firsts. What would it have taken to persuade them to mov eMack in conference. The Jets and Browns wanted him too. It’s not all that simple. The Bears have a QB already and a top ten D. They were building toward this. The Bills are still at ground zero and need to draft a top WR and OL. Heck, maybe even another QB. They just weren’t close enough to make that deal. 

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6 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

There are HOF players in almost every draft class. you just have to go find them.  That's the key. 

 

You're making this sound way easier than it is. No one knows who is the HOF players are, then you have one, that you even agree is one up for grabs. You go and get him. No one knew Khalil Mack would turn into what he is.

 

You say HOF players are drafted every year like it's easy to find them. I'll give you the benefit of hindsight, who are the HOF players drafted from the last 3 years? I'm sure you can't predict them. You're simplifying things, no ****, it's easy for anyone to say a future Hall of Famer comes out every year, you just have to find them.

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