Bill from NYC Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Just for you the Bills will draft a corner in the 1st round in '19 and '20. Do you really think that I would be surprised?
Nihilarian Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: The flip side is- sit him behind Tyrod and use the boat load of picks to acquire all that instead of dismantling the team to trade up for the qb. I dont know the thought process behind why they loved allen but traded out of Mahoney but it’s an interesting enough discussion Well, I get it with a brand new scouting dept and no GM at the time I can understand why McD wasn't so sure about Mahomes. The Chiefs let the kid sit an entire year and now has some great weapons around him with Hill, Hunt, Kelce and Sammy Watkins. Good O line, they can run, they can throw.
The Frankish Reich Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Mahomes is Josh Allen with much better instincts. It's unfathomable to me that we passed on Mahomes just to go after Allen with a higher pick the next season. Truly mind boggling. Well, now that you put it that way ... actually, a really good point, since Mahomes has all the physical talent that Allen has, plus he played college ball at a considerably higher level and was certainly closer to be NFL ready than Allen is at a comparable point. Someone has no doubt done the full post mortem on who got what through the series of trade down (so the Chiefs could take Mahomes) and trades up (so we could take Allen), but it seems like that's a wash. So ... why wait for Allen when you could've just taken Mahomes? (This is no knock on Allen, but just noting that my mind is equally boggled)
StrikeParry Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, 17 Josh Allen said: Yes he is and i’m loving. I’m one of those people who wanted mahomes. Where are all those people saying he sucks and is nothing. Your wrong so admit it But your handle? So confused...? i completely agree btw.
GimmeSomeProcess Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Kc weapons and line is in a completely different class. He ain’t doing that with what we got
Beast Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, PeterDude said: No? Peterman has never impressed me. Right. That explains your username and avatar.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 If you put Josh on the Chiefs with Andy Reid and Mahomes on the Bills with McDermott the situations would very likely be reversed. The Chiefs have the very best collection of skill players in the league, with a good coach, and the OL has been giving Mahomes a lot of time. Mahomes would be running for his life like Josh was on the the Bills. 1
Nihilarian Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Just for you the Bills will draft a corner in the 1st round in '19 and '20. Or some RBs 1
Mark Vader Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 So that must mean that we will light up the Chargers next week. WOOHOOOO! 1
HappyDays Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: Cheetah has me 30 fantasy points ? He's an outstanding receiver. He is definitely top 10 and if he keeps up this kind of performance he'll be top 5 before long. The one TD pass was a standard short pass over the middle and he just put on the burners to take it 50+ yards. Another pass Mahomes threw too high in double coverage but Hill jumped up and brought it down with perfect timing for a 30 yard gain. Our receivers can't even catch a ball that hits them in the numbers.
Roundybout Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: He's an outstanding receiver. He is definitely top 10 and if he keeps up this kind of performance he'll be top 5 before long. The one TD pass was a standard short pass over the middle and he just put on the burners to take it 50+ yards. Another pass Mahomes threw too high in double coverage but Hill jumped up and brought it down with perfect timing for a 30 yard gain. Our receivers can't even catch a ball that hits them in the numbers. His speed is freaking unreal. I haven't seen that speed since maybe Darren Sproles when he was with the Eagles.
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Well, I get it with a brand new scouting dept and no GM at the time I can understand why McD wasn't so sure about Mahomes. The Chiefs let the kid sit an entire year and now has some great weapons around him with Hill, Hunt, Kelce and Sammy Watkins. Good O line, they can run, they can throw. Honestly, that argument might make me feel worse, not better about our long term prospects. If the power structure created a spot where we couldn’t evaluate QBs for an entire offseason when we needed one then I think it’s a bigger red flag, no? Maybe ok short term but over the long haul? Additionally, we could’ve done the alex smith role with Tyrod. Not peterman, but our situations weren’t TERRIBLY dissimilar Edited September 9, 2018 by NoSaint
PeterDude Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Right. That explains your username and avatar. I made that when he was named the starter slick. I pay no allegiance to any one player on this team, never have.
StrikeParry Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 66% of his yards are from Tyreek Hill. I have watched the whole game and he's looked fine but nothing he's done makes me think we screwed up passing on him for Josh Allen. But Allen has done nothing to contradict that feeling that we DID screw up...yet. Let’s all hope you’re right, for our collective sanity’s sake.
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, 17 Josh Allen said: Yes he is and i’m loving. I’m one of those people who wanted mahomes. Where are all those people saying he sucks and is nothing. Your wrong so admit it I was, relatively, a doubter. I had a high 3rd round grade on him but did say when he went to KC I thought it was the perfect place and that the redshirt year was 100% the right approach and he had a chance to tidy up the footwork. While it is still less than perfect it is improved and I think he has been outstanding today. Still some room for improvement with footwork and tight window throws but I am prepared to say he looks like being successful.
BringBackOrton Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I was, relatively, a doubter. I had a high 3rd round grade on him but did say when he went to KC I thought it was the perfect place and that the redshirt year was 100% the right approach and he had a chance to tidy up the footwork. While it is still less than perfect it is improved and I think he has been outstanding today. Still some room for improvement with footwork and tight window throws but I am prepared to say he looks like being successful. What was your Allen grade?
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: I was, relatively, a doubter. I had a high 3rd round grade on him but did say when he went to KC I thought it was the perfect place and that the redshirt year was 100% the right approach and he had a chance to tidy up the footwork. While it is still less than perfect it is improved and I think he has been outstanding today. Still some room for improvement with footwork and tight window throws but I am prepared to say he looks like being successful. Hard to find a better situation. Reid as coach. Hunt at RB. Kelce at TE. Tyreek and Sammy outside. And the line is playing well.
KD in CA Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Look at the freaking weapons the kid has... On another point, Ryan Fitzpatrick went 21 of 28 for 417 yards, 4 TDs, 49 fan points Probably sitting on the bench for 95% of his fantasy owners!
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Hard to find a better situation. Reid as coach. Hunt at RB. Kelce at TE. Tyreek and Sammy outside. And the line is playing well. And a highly qualified NFL Veteran QB to sit behind.
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