BringBackFergy Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Water (H3O) is wet, but the components of water (Helium and Oxygen) are not. Air go, water is wet but the parts are not. Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Water (H3O) is wet, but the components of water (Helium and Oxygen) are not. Air go, water is wet but the parts are not. How could water penetrate the membrane that surrounds any atom? Therefore, water is not wet because nothing ever really gets wet. Quote
DC Tom Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Gugny said: A friend of mine on FB was saying that his family were insisting that water isn't wet; he disagreed. I opined that water isn't wet; it makes things that it touches wet. One of our mutual friends (a chemist) commented: "Wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to the surface of a solid, so when something is wet, it means that the liquid is sticking to the surface of a material." What say you? You are correct. I never thought I'd ever type that. But yes, you are correct. But still an idiot. 2 hours ago, WhoTom said: Water molecules stick together (that's the principle behind surface tension), so by your definition, a water molecule is wet because it's touching another water molecule. Therefore, water is wet. And since water can be a solid, the same logic applies to the chemist's definition. QED Except quantum mechanics tells us that you can't know the exact position of a water molecule, so they can never really "touch." Ergo, water cannot be wet. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Water cannot be wet because as the chemist said, wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to a solid so water by itself is just a liquid . Touching it makes you wet, not the water wet Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Water cannot be wet because as the chemist said, wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to a solid so water by itself is just a liquid . Touching it makes you wet, not the water wet Yes, but if the water you touched eventually evaporates...were you really ever wet or just had some water on you? Like if I throw a raw steak on your face, is your face cow meat? Of course not. 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Yes, but if the water you touched eventually evaporates...were you really ever wet or just had some water on you? Like if I throw a raw steak on your face, is your face cow meat? Of course not. That's just stupid. Of course his face would be sushi. Anyway. I voted. Water is NOT wet. Quote
WhoTom Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Except quantum mechanics tells us that you can't know the exact position of a water molecule, so they can never really "touch." Ergo, water cannot be wet. The Uncertainty Principle says that you can know a particle's exact position or its exact velocity, but not both at the same time. For this example, I choose position. Werner Heisenberg was once pulled over for speeding. The cop asked, "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?" Heisenberg responded, "No, but I know precisely where I am." Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, WhoTom said: The Uncertainty Principle says that you can know a particle's exact position or its exact velocity, but not both at the same time. For this example, I choose position. Werner Heisenberg was once pulled over for speeding. The cop asked, "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?" Heisenberg responded, "No, but I know precisely where I am." Did he get tasered? Quote
BringBackFergy Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Except quantum mechanics tells us that you can't know the exact position of a water molecule, so they can never really "touch." Ergo, water cannot be wet. You misspelled “air go”. Carry on. 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, BringBackFergy said: You misspelled “air go”. Carry on. You haven't vote it yet!* *Paid for the committee that says WaterIsNotWet. Quote
WhoTom Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Did he get tasered? I'm not certain. ? Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You are correct. I never thought I'd ever type that. But yes, you are correct. But still an idiot. Except quantum mechanics tells us that you can't know the exact position of a water molecule, so they can never really "touch." Ergo, water cannot be wet. You haven't voted yet!* *Paid for the committee that says WaterIsNotWet. Quote
BringBackFergy Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You haven't vote it yet!* *Paid for the committee that says WaterIsNotWet. You may control the inland waterways of our great nation, but I control my own body. I choose not to vote. Quote
GoBills808 Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 MW says 'covered or saturated with water or another liquid'. I dunno if water can be saturated with water, but water can definitely be covered with water. You could argue water is always covered with water. I vote wet. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: You may control the inland waterways of our great nation, but I control my own body. I choose not to vote. Only the Illinois Waterway... But good point Kavanaugh. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: I can't get this song outta my head now! It's drowning out the other voices! Thanks! 1 Quote
Jrb1979 Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Isn't this thread started by a guy who was upset over a fake person names tim jim bob dying? Quote
BringBackFergy Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Isn't this thread started by a guy who was upset over a fake person names tim jim bob dying? Steve you ignorant SOB. Just when I thought the human race was cold-hearted, you take it to a whole new level. #RIPSteve Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Steve you ignorant SOB. Just when I thought the human race was cold-hearted, you take it to a whole new level. #RIPSteve So says the guy that won't vote.? 39 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Isn't this thread started by a guy who was upset over a fake person names tim jim bob dying? I can say it: Steve You ignorant slut. I voted. Quote
DC Tom Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: The Uncertainty Principle says that you can know a particle's exact position or its exact velocity, but not both at the same time. For this example, I choose position. Werner Heisenberg was once pulled over for speeding. The cop asked, "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?" Heisenberg responded, "No, but I know precisely where I am." Momentum, not velocity. Which isn't entirely nitpicky, since molecules have thermal energy, and a corresponding momentum. Meaning in water, you can't know the position of any individual molecule. Even theoretically, you could only know it at absolutely zero (which still isn't completely, because of the effects of zero-point energy. Plus: your chemist friend is wrong. To "wet" something in chemistry is to cover the surface area of a chemical solid with a liquid. "Wet" is therefore not a property of the material, but a property of the interface between two materials. Water, therefore, cannot be "wet", because it has no definable interface with itself. Water is not wet, any way you want to argue it. 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: You misspelled “air go”. Carry on. You misspeeled "misspeeled." 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You haven't voted yet!* *Paid for the committee that says WaterIsNotWet. I haven't voted for the existence of gravity yet, either. But I'm not floating. There is no need to vote for facts. 1 Quote
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