TC in St. Louis Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 I remember that he didn't want to be here. So we traded him. We're the ones who signed him as an UDFA and developed him into being a star. Then he left. What if we still had Robert Woods, Nigel Bradham, Marquise Goodwin, and Reggie Raglund? What did we get for those guys? a 4th round pick. total. 1
Steve O Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 1:38 PM, Bill from NYC said: Gotta strongly disagree my pal. Jason Peters was the best player on the team. As for the bolded, let's take a look at that OL sans Cordy Glenn. I don't know of any other team that trades away young, skilled left tackles. Do you? Expand Not exactly young, but Duane Brown is talented. Houston traded him for a third in 2018 and second in 2019. 1
TheElectricCompany Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 We gave up a future HOF player at the second most critical position on offense. We got a good player in return, but yeah, we lost that deal. Shouldn't have moved Darby either. Great CB.
HOUSE Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Because he staged a hold out and wouldn't practice In 2008 Peters allowed 11½ sacks—tied for worst in the NFL among starting left tackles. Edited September 7, 2018 by THE SLAMMER
Bill from NYC Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 1:49 PM, Steve O said: Not exactly young, but Duane Brown is talented. Houston traded him for a third in 2018 and second in 2019. Expand Nice catch but its only happened a handful of times. It is too hard to get these guys. Very few people are 6'4" and up. weigh approx. 325 and are quick and agile. As a rule of thumb they don't get traded.
JohnC Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 1:38 PM, Bill from NYC said: Gotta strongly disagree my pal. Jason Peters was the best player on the team. As for the bolded, let's take a look at that OL sans Cordy Glenn. I don't know of any other team that trades away young, skilled left tackles. Do you? Expand When all is said and done we gave up an arguable HOF OT for a solid and indistinguishable center in Wood. To compound the foolishness in the deal Marv brought in two mediocre linemen in Langsgton Walker and a heavy weight guard who couldn't move to bolster the line. After a season or two they were moved out because of cost and ineffectiveness. How anyone can say not reworking the deal and signing Peters was the right thing to do is befuddling. 2
HamSandwhich Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Are we so bored we're talking about an old curmudgeon that didn't want to be here? Do people understand there is a game on Sunday? Edited September 7, 2018 by HamSandwhich 1
Lurker Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Threads like this are Exhibit A in why TSW is getting less and less traffic and losing established members...
SoTier Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 1:54 AM, aceman_16 said: You must be new here. Anyhow, because he wanted out. Expand Ah, the "players are greedy and selfish and want out of Buffalo" Bills apologists heard from early on.
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:32 AM, Straight Hucklebuck said: Bills decided that paying Derrick Dockery $7MM and Langston Walker $5MM and Cash to the Cap was more important than paying Peters $10MM a year. Expand wow. I feel they are related to Bodine and Newhouse. 1
SoTier Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 1:57 PM, Bill from NYC said: Nice catch but its only happened a handful of times. It is too hard to get these guys. Very few people are 6'4" and up. weigh approx. 325 and are quick and agile. As a rule of thumb they don't get traded. Expand Except by the Bills. The Peters trade was easily the second worst trade in Bills history, only topped by the trading of QB Darryl Lamonica for a couple of scrubs from Oakland back in the 1960s. They also traded Cordy Glenn to move up to get Allen. If Dawkins doesn't continue to develop off his good rookie season or Allen doesn't become a top tier franchise QB, then they will have screwed the pooch again -- and any QB's success is pretty tightly linked to OL success, particularly LT. Ask Eli Manning about that. 1
dave mcbride Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 2:10 PM, HamSandwhich said: Are we so bored we're talking about an old curmudgeon that didn't want to be here? Do people understand there is a game on Sunday? Expand It's a football board as much as a Bills board. Don't be that guy who complains about fans talking about other teams and their players.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Because he didn't want to be here.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 2:59 PM, FeelingOnYouboty said: Because he didn't want to be here. Expand Yes he did. He came right out and said he did. He wanted to be paid 10m. It was a red line he drew, right or wrong. 1 1
Nick the Greek Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 4:11 AM, WhoTom said: New owners. New GM. New coaches. New era. Let's move on. Expand Looking back on this.. some of the worse moves in the drought era is really irritating me. move on. We broke the curse last year. We have Pegula and McBeane. The team is still in Buffalo. Let’s leave the ghosts of Ralph and Russ where they belong. In the past.
billybob71 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Meh every NFL team has players that they traded or lost in free agency who went on to play well for other teams not just Buffalo.
bouds Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Guy is a Hall of Famer, dumb decision by this org. Darby looked really good last night too.
FLFan Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Is it really necessary to rehash this again? The owner is dead, the GM and money guy are both long gone - just not seeing the relevance. Hey, remind me again why Ralph fired Chuck Knox? Who cares at this point.
Mark Vader Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Without having read any post from this thread..... Because he was a crybaby who wanted more money, despite the Bills already giving him a new contract, and he didn't want to be here.
aceman_16 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) On 9/7/2018 at 2:25 PM, SoTier said: Ah, the "players are greedy and selfish and want out of Buffalo" Bills apologists heard from early on. Expand Lol nice try but lazy (PS look up ad hominem) . Your Bills history is a bit cloudy. The team wanted to keep Peters and were willing to renegotiate his contract, which had two years left on it, but after he held out and then threatened to hold out again the next season it was clear that keeping Peters in Buffalo was going to be monumentally difficult. Thus the trade. Jason has been quoted MANY times with he wanted out of Buffalo. Finally, don't let facts get in the way of your "good" story. Edited September 7, 2018 by aceman_16
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