Foxx Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:27 AM, BuffaloRush said: I’m sure taken Sully’s column away did wonders to boost subscriptions for The Buffalo Blitz Expand whether one agrees or not, print media has become a dinosaur. the only question that remains is the exact date and time of the extinction. 1
GreggTX Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 I'll say this much. The BN coverage of the Bklls has gotten a lot more boring since Sully left. As far as Sully not being a 'good writer', I've yet to see a clear and concise example of this from anyone. Sorry, but your say so isn't at all convincing. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:30 AM, Kelly the Dog said: Obviously, this place was just one of many places he heard the same thing. I spend a lot of (too much) time on Twitter and it was the exact same thing. Expand Wasn’t there supposedly some kind of survey or opinion poll?
cba fan Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:38 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wasn’t there supposedly some kind of survey or opinion poll? Expand ??? Yes. It is noted in the article posted on this thread.
White Linen Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:37 AM, GreggTX said: I'll say this much. The BN coverage of the Bklls has gotten a lot more boring since Sully left. As far as Sully not being a 'good writer', I've yet to see a clear and concise example of this from anyone. Sorry, but your say so isn't at all convincing. Expand Why don't you show a clear and concise example of his excellent writing to support your opinion?
BuffaloRush Posted September 7, 2018 Author Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:31 AM, White Linen said: So now you know more than them too. I agree with previous posters that you seem like a nice guy but you're acting silly now. They did what was best for business and their research showed readers didn't want Sullivan to be a columnist anymore. You may not like that because you disagree but I think you should at least respect that fact. Expand Yeah I get that. I don’t doubt they thought Sully was “bad for business.” I’m just saying where’s the proof that proves their vision to be correct. It is my opinion though that some fans hold Sully’s criticism against him. As a fan who was often frustration with the lack of direction with the Bills over the past 20 years or so, I was appreciate that Sully expressed criticism rather than biting his tounge. I do see how he could be perceived in a negative light, but again I think many fans internalized his comments and took what he said about the team personally. I found that to a little silly as well. I appreciate the nice words. I do like to come here and have fun bantering with others. I suppose it sometimes comes off the wrong way. Thanks for the reminder.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:40 AM, cba fan said: ??? Yes. It is noted in the article posted on this thread. Expand And yet the OP’s response to a comment about a TBN employee gathering opinion here, was to imply the decision might have been made based upon here, when he knows there were polls surveys whathave you. Huh. On 9/7/2018 at 3:37 AM, GreggTX said: I'll say this much. The BN coverage of the Bklls has gotten a lot more boring since Sully left. As far as Sully not being a 'good writer', I've yet to see a clear and concise example of this from anyone. Sorry, but your say so isn't at all convincing. Expand They’re opinions, dude. They don’t have to convince you, just the people who hold them. 1
aceman_16 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:37 AM, GreggTX said: As far as Sully not being a 'good writer', I've yet to see a clear and concise example of this from anyone. Sorry, but your say so isn't at all convincing. Expand Does his employer's demotion of him considered "a clear and concise of the example " of his lack of prosperous writing style?
BuffaloRush Posted September 7, 2018 Author Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:38 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wasn’t there supposedly some kind of survey or opinion poll? Expand Yes an Sully mentions the survey. My response was I reference to the suggestion that the decision was made due to the negative feedback Mr. Barnett received here 1
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:37 AM, GreggTX said: I'll say this much. The BN coverage of the Bklls has gotten a lot more boring since Sully left. As far as Sully not being a 'good writer', I've yet to see a clear and concise example of this from anyone. Sorry, but your say so isn't at all convincing. Expand I don't know either way but it seems pretty hard to judge excitement until the actual season starts.
BuffaloRush Posted September 7, 2018 Author Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:33 AM, Foxx said: whether one agrees or not, print media has become a dinosaur. the only question that remains is the exact date and time of the extinction. Expand Yep and again, Sully mentions this in the interview. You people really need to listen! He said the bigger papers will always be around but the midsized papers like The Buffalo News are in trouble. He suggests they focus more local news/sports and possibly move a weekly format
GreggTX Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) On 9/7/2018 at 3:44 AM, aceman_16 said: Does his employer's demotion of him considered "a clear and concise of the example " of his lack of prosperous writing style? Expand No. A few clear and examples based on relative attributes like word usage, paragraph structure might. In fact, if he weren't a good writer, people wouldn't whine about him so much because his articles wouldn't evoke any emotional response. Also, "prosperous" is not necessarily a relevant response here and was not mentioned by anyone at the BN. It's just as likely that he was given poor career choices at the end because so many fans just didn't want to hear the truth. Edited September 7, 2018 by GreggTX 1
Foxx Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:48 AM, BuffaloRush said: Yep and again, Sully mentions this in the interview. You people really need to listen! He said the bigger papers will always be around but the midsized papers like The Buffalo News are in trouble. He suggests they focus more local news/sports and possibly move a weekly format Expand so, i need to listen to a miserable old curmudgeon tell me exactly what i said? again, yeah, no thanks.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:45 AM, BuffaloRush said: Yes an Sully mentions the survey. My response was I reference to the suggestion that the decision was made due to the negative feedback Mr. Barnett received here Expand I didn't imply that at all. I said that only to suggest that it wasn't new management who just had it in for him from the start. The Sports Editor was sticking up for Sully for a long time here and the negative to positive about him was about 9-1. I didn't say or suggest this site was the only reason. Full disclosure I write a column for them once a week during the season, and will do it again this year. But I am not a shill for them or just support the news. I was criticizing a lot of the News writers. Some of them are gone now and some remain.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:24 AM, Kelly the Dog said: The guy who fired him that he is complaining about, as you may recall, was on here for months sticking up for Sully when he took the job. Endless people here badmouthed Sully and very few stuck up for him. After awhile, it seems to me that bossman realized the bad pub was not good pub. Expand On 9/7/2018 at 3:29 AM, BuffaloRush said: It would be scary if a BN news executive was making personnel decisions based on comments from members of a message board. #justsaying Expand On 9/7/2018 at 3:45 AM, BuffaloRush said: Yes an Sully mentions the survey. My response was I reference to the suggestion that the decision was made due to the negative feedback Mr. Barnett received here Expand Buffalo Rush, that suggestion came from you. KtD points out that Barnett was on here listening and defending Sully for months. He doesn’t say TBD had any significant role in the decision, only that “bad pub was not good pub”. Clearly you know TBD was far from the only source of negative feedback, so why go there?
BuffaloRush Posted September 7, 2018 Author Posted September 7, 2018 Wow so many replies! Never meant to piss anyone off. I just listened to this interview and heard a lot of passion from Sully for his profession and for the Bills. You don’t have to agree but I’m pretty sure that if you listen to this interview, you won’t be disappointed On 9/7/2018 at 3:52 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Buffalo Rush, that suggestion came from you. KtD points out that Barnett was on here listening and defending Sully for months. He doesn’t say TBD had any significant role in the decision, only that “bad pub was not good pub”. Clearly you know TBD was far from the only source of negative feedback, so why go there? Expand The way that I read the comments made it sounds like he made the decision strictly based on the feedback here. I knew that wasn’t the case. As you said, Sully mentioned the readers survey
Fadingpain Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 1:50 AM, GunnerBill said: Thougts on Jerry are always the same. He is not a good writer. That always bothered me more than his opinions. Expand bull ****.
aceman_16 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:49 AM, GreggTX said: No. A few clear and examples based on relative attributes like word usage, paragraph structure might. In fact, if he weren't a good writer, people wouldn't whine about him so much because his articles wouldn't evoke any emotional response. Expand Lol you read what I wrote and you added your bias. The paper no longer found his writing style to be prosperous THUS they demoted him. IF more found his writing "stellar" and profitable.... he would STILL be at the BN.
Fadingpain Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 1:53 AM, BuffaloRush said: Seems like somewhat of an immature response and this is why I feel Sully is misunderstood. To me it's like your saying "he wrote something negative about my favorite team so I don't want to read his work" No relative but I am a fan and I am going to write a longer column for a new Bills blog about Sully. I will post it here too. Bills fans owe Sully and apology Expand Yes, that's exactly what a certain type of Bills fan thinks! It's ridiculous but there you go. I really enjoyed the full podcast. It's worth a listen to anyone reading this thread. Didn't realize Sully would be doing 3 hours of talk radio 5 days a week. Sounds like competition for Schopp/Bulldog. I'll give them a listen and see how it goes for a while.
BillsFan692 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) On 9/7/2018 at 3:11 AM, BuffaloRush said: He’s not out of work. He has a daily radio show on 1270 AM and he’s running Buffalo Maven!!!!!!!! Expand Bro... the Buffalo Maven? What is that like his own website he just started to take down BN? Lol get out of here with that. On 9/7/2018 at 3:58 AM, Fadingpain said: Yes, that's exactly what a certain type of Bills fan thinks! It's ridiculous but there you go. I really enjoyed the full podcast. It's worth a listen to anyone reading this thread. Didn't realize Sully would be doing 3 hours of talk radio 5 days a week. Sounds like competition for Schopp/Bulldog. I'll give them a listen and see how it goes for a while. Expand More like people get sick of negativity for the sake of negativity. "To stir conversation". Its really not what you are looking for from your beat writer imo Ever check out Rodaks twitter? Edited September 7, 2018 by BillsFan692
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