Billzfan23 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Curious to see if Daboll crashes and burns, will this be his last stop? Dennison only got one year with McDermott, and he was gone - and that was calling plays for a playoff team. Daboll is a real worry for me, and I'm not convinced he's an upgrade over Dennison. The Browns were 29th and 31st in offense when he was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland. Given, he had Jake Delhomme and Colt McCoy - so perhaps there just wasn't much to work with there. In KC in 2013, he had Matt Cassell. He was there pre-Andy Reid, and I remember a stat from that season that one night Peyton Manning had 7 touchdown passes in a game, while Kansas City had 8 touchdown passes all season (or something crazy like that, perhaps it wasn't 8 touchdown passes, it might have been 8 touchdown passes to wide receivers, but regardless, they were dead last in offense, ranked 32nd in points. When my friends from Missouri heard that we hired Daboll, all I got was grief about how ****ty he was. Yeah, he had the time coaching tight ends for the Pats, and had the season in college with Alabama, but I think he is not long for the Bills. I think he will have a very short leash in Buffalo. Regardless of whether we have any weapons at all (we have very little talent on that side of the ball) - my guess is that if he struggle with the play calling and creating offense, he will be gone really soon. Perhaps that circular reasoning, because maybe no coaches could be successful with those options at QB, but still - their QB's were probably not as bad as Peterman.
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Well we haven't literally seen anything yet so I don't know. 2
MJS Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 We might as well fire him now. All your anecdotes have convinced me! 1 6 2
Doc Brown Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 He's had to coach some really bad offenses. Brady Quinn, Derrick Anderson, Colt McCoy, Matt Moore, Chad Henne, and Matt Cassel were his QB's over his four years as OC. Now he has Nate Peterman. I think he gets two years unless they're really bad. He should have his chance with Josh Allen and some added talent next year. 2 1
Aussie Joe Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Its hard to imagine that he wont be an upgrade over Dennison... Belichick and Saban seem to rate him so I will go with their opinions for the time being... I'll reassess mid season..
Batman1876 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 They probably be hesitant to fire the OC while developing Allen. It rarely goes well when a young QB gets a new OC every year.
aceman_16 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Bills' fans are smarticles and perceptive. I wish someone would have TOLD McDermott this info BEFORE he hired him. Rats!! We are DOOMED.... DOOMED I say!! 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, Billzfan23 said: Curious to see if Daboll crashes and burns, will this be his last stop? Dennison only got one year with McDermott, and he was gone - and that was calling plays for a playoff team. Daboll is a real worry for me, and I'm not convinced he's an upgrade over Dennison. The Browns were 29th and 31st in offense when he was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland. Given, he had Jake Delhomme and Colt McCoy - so perhaps there just wasn't much to work with there. In KC in 2013, he had Matt Cassell. He was there pre-Andy Reid, and I remember a stat from that season that one night Peyton Manning had 7 touchdown passes in a game, while Kansas City had 8 touchdown passes all season (or something crazy like that, perhaps it wasn't 8 touchdown passes, it might have been 8 touchdown passes to wide receivers, but regardless, they were dead last in offense, ranked 32nd in points. When my friends from Missouri heard that we hired Daboll, all I got was grief about how ****ty he was. Yeah, he had the time coaching tight ends for the Pats, and had the season in college with Alabama, but I think he is not long for the Bills. I think he will have a very short leash in Buffalo. Regardless of whether we have any weapons at all (we have very little talent on that side of the ball) - my guess is that if he struggle with the play calling and creating offense, he will be gone really soon. Perhaps that circular reasoning, because maybe no coaches could be successful with those options at QB, but still - their QB's were probably not as bad as Peterman. It might be worth keeping in mind that a number of successful coaches have sucked or had poor results in their first gigs. See Belichick, Bill**** for one 2 1
Happy Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It might be worth keeping in mind that a number of successful coaches have sucked or had poor results in their first gigs. See Belichick, Bill**** for one Pete Carroll as another example. One year with NYJ (6-10) then three years with NE (10-6, 9-7, 8-8).
YoloinOhio Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Well I wasn’t a fan of this hire originally but I’ll give him a chance 1
COTC Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Another depressing thread...are you that negative in real life? ?
That's No Moon Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 They can't block, but it's OK, they don't tackle either. 1
White Linen Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 I had the opposite thought earlier today. I started thinking about Mike Pettine and how I was criticized for getting the feeling he'll get head coaching offers. Most felt I was way too early in my concern. The next year he got a head coaching job. I doubt it will be this year because of Peterman's limitations but if he gets Josh Allen playing good ball - he'll be tough to retain. I'm not saying I'm predicting him to do this - just that if he makes this offense go, he'll get looks for doing it. 1
jr1 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 there's so many jobs especially in college, even Steve Fairchild was a HC
BillsFan692 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 How can we be talking about dabolls last stop before he has even played his first game 1
Putin Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, White Linen said: I had the opposite thought earlier today. I started thinking about Mike Pettine and how I was criticized for getting the feeling he'll get head coaching offers. Most felt I was way too early in my concern. The next year he got a head coaching job. I doubt it will be this year because of Peterman's limitations but if he gets Josh Allen playing good ball - he'll be tough to retain. I'm not saying I'm predicting him to do this - just that if he makes this offense go, he'll get looks for doing it. Let’s cross that bridge when we get there!! 2 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: How can we be talking about dabolls last stop before he has even played his first game I really hope he’s not playing Edited September 7, 2018 by Putin 1
GreggTX Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 This was my reaction when we hired him, but he really has had no talent to work with and if this OL doesn't up their game a lot, he may be in for a repeat performance. I feel for the guy, actually. Let's hope this offense is much, much better than they looked in preseason. 1
RochesterRob Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 20 hours ago, jr1 said: there's so many jobs especially in college, even Steve Fairchild was a HC College is as vast as the Pacific Ocean in terms of programs. Daboll could go down to Alfred State in Allegany County and become a head coach so I doubt very much that Daboll would be denied another chance. Especially when you do not attach a qualifier such as a big time program it is hard to imagine not getting another chance. Just a matter of letting your pride not get in the way.
Augie Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 23 hours ago, MJS said: We might as well fire him now. All your anecdotes have convinced me! You read them? I didn’t get past the first sentence. I mean, why bother? There’s always another job, but maybe not at the same level. 1
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