NY Times Publishes Op-Ed From Trump Senior Official

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, ALF said:

 

Times would disagree

 

The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us

 

 

OF COURSE the times would disagree. Don't be dense.

 

[plenzmd1]

15 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

Refute the fact that the NYT and WaPo rely almost exclusively on anonymous sources without any named source verification.

 

Refute that these "stories" are, therefore, not able to be relied on for anything other than entertainment purposes.

 

I refute it...now prove to me I am wrong with numbers.

 

The problem with this piece it was not reporting..it was an OpED piece..with no verified 2nd source etc...you know, principals of journalism

 

..and unnamed sources have been the lifeblood of political reporting since we became a country with a free press.

 

Refute Trump is a racist

Edited September 6, 2018 by plenzmd1

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

Refute Trump is a racist

 

I refute it. Prove me wrong with numbers. Full quotes.

 

You're a !@#$ing child, man. Sorry.

Edit: also, even when anonymous sources were used in they past they were almost ALWAYS verified with public sources.

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by joesixpack

[plenzmd1]

Just now, joesixpack said:

 

I refute it. Prove me wrong with numbers. Full quotes.

 

You're a !@#$ing child, man. Sorry.

see, thats your argument...I said it, therefor it is so.

 

You want quotes, here is just one. Again, I am not saying Trump is racist..I am saying a basis for an argument that just says..".I say it is so, therefore it is..its childish.

 

Soooo many Sanctuary areas want OUT of this ridiculous, crime infested & breeding concept.

 

 

 

[ALF]

a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us

 

 

since the Times knows the identity of the official it's only anonymous to us

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, ALF said:

since the Times knows the identity of the official it's only anonymous to us

 

 

An anonymous source told me you have herpes. I know who the anonymous source is, so he's only anonymous to you.

 

 

8 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

see, thats your argument...I said it, therefor it is so.

 

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE STORY IS!

 

"We know this source, trust us."

 

This isn't rocket science.

 

[ALF]

6 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

 

An anonymous source told me you have herpes. I know who the anonymous source is, so he's only anonymous to you.

 

 

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE STORY IS!

 

"We know this source, trust us."

 

This isn't rocket science.

 

 

You are even more bizarre then Trump and that is almost impossible to do

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

You are even more bizarre then Trump and that is almost impossible to do

 

Whatever you say, Mr. Disingenuity.

 

[DC Tom]

20 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

see, thats your argument...I said it, therefor it is so.

 

You want quotes, here is just one. Again, I am not saying Trump is racist..I am saying a basis for an argument that just says..".I say it is so, therefore it is..its childish.

 

Soooo many Sanctuary areas want OUT of this ridiculous, crime infested & breeding concept.

 

 

 

 

Lost in this pitiful argument you're having with JSP is the simple fact that the Times published an op-ed confirming the "deep state" exists.

[TakeYouToTasker]

The story is an outright fabrication seeking to do damage to the President as indictments are about to begin to flow.

 

There is no source.

 

It is outright fiction.

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

The story is an outright fabrication seeking to do damage to the President as indictments are about to begin to flow.

 

There is no source.

 

It is outright fiction.

 

 

 

So, would you say this particular media outlet is working to subvert a democratically elected president and therefore the will of the people?

 

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

The story is an outright fabrication seeking to do damage to the President as indictments are about to begin to flow.

 

There is no source.

 

It is outright fiction.

 

 

 

I suspect there's a source.  I also suspect the Times is purposely trying to frame one person's opinion as a general trend sans confirmation, and has been sitting on this op-ed for months, waiting to coordinate it with Woodward's book release for maximum impact.

[TakeYouToTasker]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I suspect there's a source.  I also suspect the Times is purposely trying to frame one person's opinion as a general trend sans confirmation, and has been sitting on this op-ed for months, waiting to coordinate it with Woodward's book release for maximum impact.

 

I disagree.

 

If such a person existed, their entire purpose would now be subverted by coming forward.  There would be no logical reason to publish such a piece.

 

The only purpose this serves is to propagandize.

 

It's a fiction, just as Woodward's book is.

 

It's agree it was coordinated to release with the book, but posit that it's easy to coordinate when there's only two actors involved (Woodward and the Times) and there are no real sources.

Edited September 6, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker

[MILFHUNTER#518]

2 hours ago, joesixpack said:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/35515/nyts-anonymous-source-traitor-troll-or-tall-tale-michael-j-knowles?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

 

This guy gets it, especially in the last paragraph.

 

The time is coming to destroy these domestic enemies of our country. I can't wait.

 

Very good read thank you

 

At this point, msm has lost all credibility and anonymous sources are so overused that they also carry zero credibility with most people.

 

MSM=Boy who cried wolf

22 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I suspect there's a source.  I also suspect the Times is purposely trying to frame one person's opinion as a general trend sans confirmation, and has been sitting on this op-ed for months, waiting to coordinate it with Woodward's book release for maximum impact.

You are most likely quite right, assuming there is a source. 

[LB3]

I wonder which NYT employee had to sleep with the anonymous source for this story.

[Tiberius]

19 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I suspect there's a source.  I also suspect the Times is purposely trying to frame one person's opinion as a general trend sans confirmation, and has been sitting on this op-ed for months, waiting to coordinate it with Woodward's book release for maximum impact.

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The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

The Times motives was to release a news story. The inclusion of John McCain's farewell letter shows it is not months old. This is an obvious attempt to make the babysitters look good, which, perhaps they are. 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

 

Can't Cucck the Tuck!

 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

Good read.

 

https://www.axios.com/trump-administration-white-house-leaks-a5a82efa-d6c8-4209-b616-80f1422eb36c.html

 

President Trump is not just seething about Bob Woodward. He’s deeply suspicious of much of the government he oversees — from the hordes of folks inside agencies, right up to some of the senior-most political appointees and even some handpicked aides inside his own White House, officials tell Axios.

The big picture: He should be paranoid. In the hours after the New York Times published the anonymous Op-Edfrom "a senior official in the Trump administration" trashing the president ("I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration"), two senior administration officials reached out to Axios to say the author stole the words right out of their mouths.

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• "I find the reaction to the NYT op-ed fascinating — that people seem so shocked that there is a resistance from the inside," one senior official said. "A lot of us [were] wishing we’d been the writer, I suspect ... I hope he [Trump] knows — maybe he does? — that there are dozens and dozens of us."

Why it matters: Several senior White House officials have described their roles to us as saving America and the world from this president.

• A good number of current White House officials have privately admitted to us they consider Trump unstable, and at times dangerously slow.
• But the really deep concern and contempt, from our experience, has been at the agencies — and particularly in the foreign policy arena.

For some time last year, Trump even carried with him a handwritten list of people suspected to be leakers undermining his agenda.

• "He would basically be like, 'We’ve gotta get rid of them. The snakes are everywhere but we’re getting rid of them,'" said a source close to Trump.
• Trump would often ask staff whom they thought could be trusted. He often asks the people who work for him what they think about their colleagues, which can be not only be uncomfortable but confusing to Trump: Rival staffers shoot at each other and Trump is left not knowing who to believe.

Officials describe an increasingly conspiracy-minded president:

• "When he was super frustrated about the leaks, he would rail about the 'snakes' in the White House," said a source who has discussed administration leakers with the president.
• "Especially early on, when we would be in Roosevelt Room meetings, he would sit down at the table, and get to talking, then turn around to see who was sitting along the walls behind him."
• "One day, after one of those meetings, he said, 'Everything that just happened is going to leak. I don’t know any of those people in the room.' ... He was very paranoid about this."

The Times Op-Ed reinforces everything Trump instinctively believes:

• That a "Deep State" exists. It's trying to undermine him and — in the case of Jeff Sessions’ Justice Department, in Trump’s mind — is trying to overthrow his presidency.
• The Bob Woodward book, Trump believes, exposes that leakers are everywhere — and gunning for him. 

Be smart: "People talk about the loyalists leaving," the source close to Trump tells us. "What it really means is [that there'll be] fewer and fewer people who Trump knows who they really are. So imagine how paranoid you must be if that is your view of the world."

 

 

[plenzmd1]

48 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Lost in this pitiful argument you're having with JSP is the simple fact that the Times published an op-ed confirming the "deep state" exists.

If you believe it..kind of a conundrum there no?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

Good read.

 

https://www.axios.com/trump-administration-white-house-leaks-a5a82efa-d6c8-4209-b616-80f1422eb36c.html

 

President Trump is not just seething about Bob Woodward. He’s deeply suspicious of much of the government he oversees — from the hordes of folks inside agencies, right up to some of the senior-most political appointees and even some handpicked aides inside his own White House, officials tell Axios.

The big picture: He should be paranoid. In the hours after the New York Times published the anonymous Op-Edfrom "a senior official in the Trump administration" trashing the president ("I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration"), two senior administration officials reached out to Axios to say the author stole the words right out of their mouths.

Show less

• "I find the reaction to the NYT op-ed fascinating — that people seem so shocked that there is a resistance from the inside," one senior official said. "A lot of us [were] wishing we’d been the writer, I suspect ... I hope he [Trump] knows — maybe he does? — that there are dozens and dozens of us."

Why it matters: Several senior White House officials have described their roles to us as saving America and the world from this president.

• A good number of current White House officials have privately admitted to us they consider Trump unstable, and at times dangerously slow.
• But the really deep concern and contempt, from our experience, has been at the agencies — and particularly in the foreign policy arena.

For some time last year, Trump even carried with him a handwritten list of people suspected to be leakers undermining his agenda.

• "He would basically be like, 'We’ve gotta get rid of them. The snakes are everywhere but we’re getting rid of them,'" said a source close to Trump.
• Trump would often ask staff whom they thought could be trusted. He often asks the people who work for him what they think about their colleagues, which can be not only be uncomfortable but confusing to Trump: Rival staffers shoot at each other and Trump is left not knowing who to believe.

Officials describe an increasingly conspiracy-minded president:

• "When he was super frustrated about the leaks, he would rail about the 'snakes' in the White House," said a source who has discussed administration leakers with the president.
• "Especially early on, when we would be in Roosevelt Room meetings, he would sit down at the table, and get to talking, then turn around to see who was sitting along the walls behind him."
• "One day, after one of those meetings, he said, 'Everything that just happened is going to leak. I don’t know any of those people in the room.' ... He was very paranoid about this."

The Times Op-Ed reinforces everything Trump instinctively believes:

• That a "Deep State" exists. It's trying to undermine him and — in the case of Jeff Sessions’ Justice Department, in Trump’s mind — is trying to overthrow his presidency.
• The Bob Woodward book, Trump believes, exposes that leakers are everywhere — and gunning for him. 

Be smart: "People talk about the loyalists leaving," the source close to Trump tells us. "What it really means is [that there'll be] fewer and fewer people who Trump knows who they really are. So imagine how paranoid you must be if that is your view of the world."

 

 

 

You're not paranoid when they really ARE out to get you.