Beast Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 I think Flacco is the type of QB McDermott and Frasier confuse and the defense will feast upon him.
JohnC Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Bills fans WAY overrated what Trent was actually doing during that 4-0 start, IMO. He played well. Don't get me wrong. But it was not anything he was doing that he didn't do before. I don't buy that he was shell shocked after that big hit against the Cards and never returned to form. One of his career best games was first game back from concussion against the Chargers. Whether you intended to or not you make a good point. As you seem to be suggesting in this league you can have inherent flaws in your game and still have short term success. But because the tape doesn't lie your strengths will be on exhibit and so will your deficiencies. Inevitably, your strengths as a player will be taken away by the opposition and your limitations will be magnified. The league caught up with Edwards and he didn't have much in his arsenal to respond. Football is a game of adjustments. If you don't have the wherewithal to respond to the adjustment you are sunk. What I find exciting about Josh Allen is that because of his imposing physical talent he has a wide array of options in his quiver that he can resort to when his first option is blocked. When discussing qbs such as Edwards, Peterman and to an extent even Tyrod their tool kits are too small to adequately respond when their first option is taken away. 2
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 How Does Buffalo Bills Offense Fare in Brian Daboll's Debut, and 7 More Things to Watch vs. Ravens By Ryan Talbot | Contributing writer The Buffalo Bills will kickoff the 2018 season on Sunday afternoon against the Baltimore Ravens. Despite coming off of a playoff berth one season ago, Buffalo is listed as a seven point underdog in the game. Buffalo's roster looks much different from one season ago and the team has a new offensive coordinator making his regular season debut against the Ravens. With plenty of questions surrounding the Bills leading up to the matchup, here are eight things to watch in Week 1. How does offense look in Brian Daboll's debut as Bills OC? Can Nathan Peterman prove the doubters wrong? Does the interior offensive line hold up? Can Buffalo stop the run? What does LeSean McCoy's workload look like against Ravens? Will the Bills' pass rush show life in regular season? Who starts across from Tre'Davious White? How does Corey Bojorquez perform in first action with Buffalo?
reddogblitz Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I don't buy that he was shell shocked after that big hit against the Cards and never returned to form. One of his career best games was first game back from concussion against the Chargers. I don't buy it either.
Nihilarian Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Bills fans WAY overrated what Trent was actually doing during that 4-0 start, IMO. He played well. Don't get me wrong. But it was not anything he was doing that he didn't do before. I don't buy that he was shell shocked after that big hit against the Cards and never returned to form. One of his career best games was first game back from concussion against the Chargers. A lot of people have said that he played well the next week...and some players go right back into a game dazed as heck and play well on instincts. That doesn't mean that they are not suffering from the effects of that concussion. The protocols are different today and Edwards probably should have sat out many games if not the entire season. The thing is the more you get hit in the head after a severe concussion the more susceptible you are for more injury and it's far easier to suffer another concussion. For me, it's really easy to see that he was simply never the same player after that San Diego game. Who knows, perhaps he got another hard hit to the head in that game. What's crazy is that Rivals.com in 2001 had Edwards rated at the #1 QB in the nation and he was recruited by Michigan, Florida, Notre Dame, and Tennessee. http://www.nfl.com/videos/buffalo-bills/09000d5d80b60a32/WK-5-Trent-Edwards-injury
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 From Matthew Fairburn at The Athletic:'Forget about all the what-ifs': Former NFL MVP Rich Gannon... Rich Gannon understands those obstacles better than most. The longtime NFL quarterback spent the first 12 years of his career bouncing around the league as a spot starter and backup. It wasn’t until he landed with the Raiders in 1999 that Gannon made his first of four consecutive Pro Bowls and ended up winning an MVP award. On Sunday, he’ll be a part of CBS’ broadcast team for the Bills’ game against the Raiders along with Kevin Harlan and Steve Tasker. He’s studied Peterman closely and understands his story. “I think honestly if I were coaching him I would say to him, ‘Look this is a great opportunity,’” Gannon said by phone. “Forget about all the what-ifs and different scenarios with this draft pick. Don’t worry about it. If he goes out and plays well, there’s a good chance he plays next week. It’s a week to week business anyway. If he goes out and plays well and plays well next week, I’m not saying there’s a quarterback controversy, but it’s hard to replace a guy who’s playing well when the team is winning. He could create a really good situation. Worse case scenario, he plays well this week and maybe next week and the team is 1-1 or 2-0, whatever, and they make a change at some point and now he’s entrenched as a no. 2 quarterback and he’s a quarterback the team has a lot of faith and confidence in who can step in at a moment’s notice. You go from that situation to maybe being on the street a month ago. Think about it. They drafted Josh, they got AJ and he could have been the odd man out. Now he’s starting Week 1? I think that’s a great opportunity.”
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: A lot of people have said that he played well the next week...and some players go right back into a game dazed as heck and play well on instincts. That doesn't mean that they are not suffering from the effects of that concussion. The protocols are different today and Edwards probably should have sat out many games if not the entire season. The thing is the more you get hit in the head after a severe concussion the more susceptible you are for more injury and it's far easier to suffer another concussion. For me, it's really easy to see that he was simply never the same player after that San Diego game. Who knows, perhaps he got another hard hit to the head in that game. What's crazy is that Rivals.com in 2001 had Edwards rated at the #1 QB in the nation and he was recruited by Michigan, Florida, Notre Dame, and Tennessee. http://www.nfl.com/videos/buffalo-bills/09000d5d80b60a32/WK-5-Trent-Edwards-injury I agree with all of that. But Edwards was crushed his entire college career on a ****ty Stanford team, which is why, even though he was highly rated, he lasted until the third round. The consensus was that he was given no chance because he had a crappy line and he took a beating. He was fearless, I will give him that. But watching him in the NFL, like NP, he just isn't any good under a strong rush. He got killed and ultimately concussed in the NFL not so much because it was unlucky or he took a really bad hit, but because he froze under a heavy rush, and was going to keep taking hit after hit after hit. I was on here most of the time then with Trent, like I am now with Nate, saying he is likely never going to be good. And Trent had a much better arm than Nate. Not a great one but clearly stronger. He could throw that deep out.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Week 1 NFL guide: Score predictions, best games, fantasy tips Buffalo Bills at Baltimore Ravens (1 p.m. ET, CBS) Point spread: BAL -7.5 | Matchup quality: 41.3 (of 100) Mike Rodak's pick: Baltimore's defense allowed the NFL's 10th-fewest passing yards in 2017. The chances seem low of seeing new Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, quarterback Nathan Peterman and an offensive line that struggled this preseason all click immediately in a road opener. Ravens 20, Bills 13 Jamison Hensley's pick: Since 2008, Baltimore is 5-1 when opening the season at home, with an average margin of victory of 17.2 points. To make matters worse for the Bills, the Ravens return every starter on defense, and their pass rush has been dominant this preseason. That spells a long day for Peterman. Ravens 20, Bills 6 FPI win projection: BAL, 84 percent. Baltimore is FPI's biggest favorite of the week, partially because the Bills are starting Peterman, who finished last season with a 12.4 Total QBR in limited action. What to watch for in fantasy: Fantasy's No. 7 running back from 2017 did not suddenly get too old to do it again -- Eric Karabell ranked LeSean McCoy as one of the top RB2 options this week. In case you missed it: Starting Peterman not a surprise, despite '17 disaster... Ravens' secret weapon? Jackson 'absolutely' ready to play
3rdand12 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 4 hours ago, JohnC said: I partially agree with what you said. I still hold that Peterman is more willing to throw the ball in the middle of the field and downfield risking throwing it up for grabs for the receiver to fight for than Trent. If you watched some of the preseason games you would have seen that he was more willing to throw into tight windows than Trent was willing to do. Where Peterman gets in trouble is when he throws the out passes (as you have noted). Because of his limited arm strength he becomes vulnerable to DBs waiting to jump the route and snatch the ball. From what I have seen so far is that the TEs are going to be utilized more than we have seen in a long time. Without a doubt Peterman is a temporary qb. Where I differ from you is that I fret less about his role than you do. We'll just have to wait for the real action to see how this plays out for him. Good point about TEs. There has been other well considered thoughts about the T Ends and how they may be used in this New Offense. I was asking as i was quite surprised about Nick O'Leary. I might guess they designed the players around the Offense a bit ? Tweaked perhaps ? 4 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Looks like Ray Ray has tAken over M. Goodwin's roster spot. cold, very cold man you are : )
JohnC Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: Good point about TEs. There has been other well considered thoughts about the T Ends and how they may be used in this New Offense. I was asking as i was quite surprised about Nick O'Leary. I might guess they designed the players around the Offense a bit ? Tweaked perhaps ? You shouldn't be surprised with the O'Leary cut. Much of it had to do with the jam at the position. In additon, there is a McDermott bias for tall receivers. Croom is going to replace O'Leary as the receiving tight end. As much as Gunner disparages Logan Thomas McDermett is entranced with his imposing physical attributes.
3rdand12 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Perfect for Dabolls quick twitch offense. With that wind and rain possible, we may not honestly know yet if Peterman can accurately throw a deep ball.... 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: You shouldn't be surprised with the O'Leary cut. Much of it had to do with the jam at the position. In additon, there is a McDermott bias for tall receivers. Croom is going to replace O'Leary as the receiving tight end. As much as Gunner disparages Logan Thomas McDermett is entranced with his imposing physical attributes. Imposing physical attributes. noted. i am loathe to argue with Gunner over nearly any player e v a l. lol .. but i have some faith in Logan Thomas as a hybrid TE. I hope they have all developed blocking skills. they will need them in the run game , which Bills will likely depend upon. And Protecting Peterman with chipping ends and lBs as well
Patrick Duffy Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Actually may help out for us a little bit. Not sure if it will be enough though. Hopefully the running game can make a bigger impact for the Bills with those circumstances.
3rdand12 Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Actually may help out for us a little bit. Not sure if it will be enough though. Hopefully the running game can make a bigger impact for the Bills with those circumstances. yes. Shady is slippery when wet haha 1
reddogblitz Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: With that wind and rain possible, we may not honestly know yet if Peterman can accurately throw a deep ball.... Nasty Nate is a mudder. He'll be fine. 1
ColoradoBills Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Nasty Nate is a mudder. He'll be fine. His father was a mudder. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 9-7: Greg Cosell on One Bills Live (12:21) Joe Flacco Opens Up About Lamar Jackson, His Motivation and Future During the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft, Joe Flacco was hanging out with his brother, cousin and Dennis Pitta in the basement of his home. They were playing pop-a-shot basketball as they casually kept one eye on the TV. Throughout the night, the guys were teasing Flacco about the possibility of the Ravens picking a quarterback. “We were saying stuff like, ‘I wonder which quarterback we’re going to take!’” Pitta said. “We were just messing with him. He didn’t really care; he was laughing about it too. I was joking about it mainly because I didn’t think it was going to happen.” The Ravens traded back once. They traded back again. When Baltimore selected tight end Hayden Hurst at pick No. 25, they all thought Flacco was in the clear. Even better, he had a new weapon. Then the Ravens traded back into the first round, pick No. 32, and they all immediately knew who it was for. Lamar Jackson, the electric 2016 Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback was coming to Baltimore. “We all just looked at each other,” Flacco said. “They looked at me and I looked at everybody else like, ‘Uhhh,’ and we kind of raised our eyebrows and laughed.”
Domdab99 Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Trent Edwards made one pass, one play, that made me sit up and take notice and get all excited about him - but for the life of me, I can't remember who it was against. It was late in the 4th. Bills were down and needed a first down to stay alive, or they were done. Edwards launched a beautiful ball down the left sideline in stride to - someone - and the Bills either kicked a FG to win or moved it in for a TD, I don't remember which. Dammit! I wish I could remember more of it...
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