iinii Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 10 hours ago, purple haze said: I'm sure they are, but that arm strength is what it is. Maybe if they roll him out it would work better. Haven’t you heard? Peterman is the next Drew Brees. 1
Kelly the Dog Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, iinii said: Haven’t you heard? Peterman is the next Drew Brees. He's the next Drew Willy. 1
Boatdrinks Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, iinii said: Haven’t you heard? Peterman is the next Drew Brees. Lol.... can’t wait for the Brady / Peterman comparisons either. 1
Warcodered Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Lol.... can’t wait for the Brady / Peterman comparisons either. Oh that's already been done. Clearly any QB taken in a late round that does good in preseason is secretly Tom Brady.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Help wanted. Coming in 2019 I presume. I'm surprised at how cheap the rams and texans offenses are 1
SouthNYfan Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I'm surprised at how cheap the rams and texans offenses are Has to be the rookie deals for Goff, Kupp, higbee, and a couple others cooks extension pays him less this year, and it jumps next year that # is going to jump really fast
ColoradoBills Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Has to be the rookie deals for Goff, Kupp, higbee, and a couple others cooks extension pays him less this year, and it jumps next year that # is going to jump really fast Texans got more FA money next year than the Bills do. FWIW
BillsFan4 Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yikes! “The Bengals would have done anything in their power to get rid of Russell Bodine.....”. Also disagree on his comment about how “trading for Kelvin Benjamin was always a head scratcher. The Bills were 5-2 at the time, absolutely desperate for WR help and traded a 3rd for a damn good WR who was instantly the best WR on the roster. They improved the position in the midst of a playoff push last season, and still have Benjamin under contract this season. What’s so hard to understand about making that trade? I agree with his general point about the WR group. Obviously the WR corps is still a huge work in progress (for many reasons including cap space and no established QB which makes it harder to sign FA’s), but that doesn’t make acquiring KB a bad move. Quite the opposite IMO. Until the Bills have a QB that will help entice WR’s to sign here, or the cap space to overpay a free agent (neither are the case yet), trading for a guy is probably their best bet. And I know I’d rather have KB for a 3rd than Martavis Bryant for the same price... Were there other trades available to the Bills? I don’t know. Kinda funny he was talking up Vontae Davis too, after the preseason he’s had. Overall though, I totally get his lack of confidence in this current Bills team.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: “The Bengals would have done anything in their power to get rid of Russell Bodine.....”. Also disagree on his comment about how “trading for Kelvin Benjamin was always a head scratcher. The Bills were 5-2 at the time, absolutely desperate for WR help and traded a 3rd for a damn good WR who was instantly the best WR on the roster. They improved the position in the midst of a playoff push last season, and still have Benjamin under contract this season. What’s so hard to understand about making that trade? I agree with his general point about the WR group. Obviously the WR corps is still a huge work in progress (for many reasons including cap space and no established QB which makes it harder to sign FA’s), but that doesn’t make acquiring KB a bad move. Quite the opposite IMO. Until the Bills have a QB that will help entice WR’s to sign here, or the cap space to overpay a free agent (neither are the case yet), trading for a guy is probably their best bet. And I know I’d rather have KB for a 3rd than Martavis Bryant for the same price... Were there other trades available to the Bills? I don’t know. Kinda funny he was talking up Vontae Davis too, after the preseason he’s had. Overall though, I totally get his lack of confidence in this current Bills team. Zay needs to play up to his potential and k Benj need to play every snap like it’s a preseason game vs the pathners. If these two things happen WR is ok. 1
NewEraBills Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 15 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Completely agree. He's getting a little long in the tooth. Maybe at first glance, on paper. But I certainly wouldn't give them this game. This is far from the 2012 Ravens that won the SB. Your statements show you don't know the team at all IMO. The Ravens are actually loaded with players ready to step in for the aging vets. At OLB for instance, Suggs is very long in the tooth but they have Tim Williams, Bowser, Judon, Za'Darius Smith all ready to take over. That's two deep on each side. At CB, Jimmy Smith and Carr are old, but they have Humphrey, Averrett, Hill, Young already to step in. Young is the starting Nickel and only in his 3rd year. The OL other than Yanda is young. The TE's are fairly new. So I'm not seeing this old over the hill team you are talking about. Sure the Safeties and Suggs are old, but most of the guys are either hitting their prime or are getting ready too. It's easy to predict the Ravens winning this game based on familiarity and domination in the trenches from Pierce and Williams. I don't think we have anyone that can block either of them in the run game. When I mention familiarity, I'm talking about Juan and Frasier. Those guys over there know them and they also know Ducasse and probably whipped his ass a lot. They also know Bodine and did whip him a lot. But Groy is starting and I'm not sure if that's much better. In either case we'll see Sunday. I just want the Bills to have an OK showing. I take the statement, games are won in the trenches literally and in this game I see the Bills outmatched both ways. I think the Bills defensive line vs the Ravens OL will be more interesting to watch than the Ravens DL vs the Bills OL. I think one good thing for us to do would be to overload Orlando Brown Jr on the right side. Give him all kind of looks and see if he can handle protecting Flacco from that side, but other than that, I think their OL is capable of sustaining who we have up front until we show otherwise. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 there isn't game prep w/o complaining about Pete Prisco Buffalo at Baltimore 1 p.m. ET (CBS) The Bills have issues in a lot of spots and quarterback is No. 1 on that list. They will start Nathan Peterman, who threw five picks in a half in his first start in 2017. This won't be that bad, but it won't be good either against an improved Ravens defense. Joe Flacco will also have a big day. Ravens big. Pick: Ravens 31, Bills 17
26CornerBlitz Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Fast 4Ward - Storylines to Watch: Bills at Ravens BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) - Nathan Peterman and Ryan Groy have been named the Bills starting quarterback and center, respectively. However there are still questions about how the offense and team will perform on the road in Week 1 against the Ravens. 1. Can the Bills protect Nathan Peterman? 2. Ball-Hawking Defense 3. Secondary options and questions 4. Can the Bills generate a pass rush?
Happy Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: Your statements show you don't know the team at all IMO. The Ravens are actually loaded with players ready to step in for the aging vets. At OLB for instance, Suggs is very long in the tooth but they have Tim Williams, Bowser, Judon, Za'Darius Smith all ready to take over. That's two deep on each side. At CB, Jimmy Smith and Carr are old, but they have Humphrey, Averrett, Hill, Young already to step in. Young is the starting Nickel and only in his 3rd year. The OL other than Yanda is young. The TE's are fairly new. So I'm not seeing this old over the hill team you are talking about. Sure the Safeties and Suggs are old, but most of the guys are either hitting their prime or are getting ready too. It's easy to predict the Ravens winning this game based on familiarity and domination in the trenches from Pierce and Williams. I don't think we have anyone that can block either of them in the run game. When I mention familiarity, I'm talking about Juan and Frasier. Those guys over there know them and they also know Ducasse and probably whipped his ass a lot. They also know Bodine and did whip him a lot. But Groy is starting and I'm not sure if that's much better. In either case we'll see Sunday. I just want the Bills to have an OK showing. I take the statement, games are won in the trenches literally and in this game I see the Bills outmatched both ways. I think the Bills defensive line vs the Ravens OL will be more interesting to watch than the Ravens DL vs the Bills OL. I think one good thing for us to do would be to overload Orlando Brown Jr on the right side. Give him all kind of looks and see if he can handle protecting Flacco from that side, but other than that, I think their OL is capable of sustaining who we have up front until we show otherwise. I don't. IMO, you're giving them a little too much credit. Like the Bills, the Raven's strength will be the defense, mostly the Dline and secondary. It will be interesting to see how much time the Bills' Oline can give Peterman to throw. If they can give him 2-3 seconds, that should be sufficient. Hopefully our run blocking (which should be better than pass blocking) will give Shady, Ivory, and Murphy lanes to run through. CJ Mosley is good, but he's no Ray Lewis. We could have a good day running the ball, assuming we don't give them enough of an incentive to stack the box. Their Oline is not dominant. From a WalterFootball article Quote The Ravens were also expected to bolster both the offensive line and rushing attack this offseason, but Flacco's contract prevented that from happening. In fact, the blocking unit figures to be worse in the wake of the departures of center Ryan Jensen and right tackle Austin Howard. Neither lineman was great, but neither was a liability either. Their replacements - center Matt Skura and right tackle Alex Lewis - are both atrocious football players and would have difficulty making other 53-man rosters. The same goes for left guard James Hurst, who might be the worst blocker on the entire front. There are two capable blockers in left tackle Ronnie Stanley and elite right guard Marshal Yanda, but they won't be enough to keep Flacco's pocket clean. They also won't be able to open enough holes for mediocre running back Alex Collins, who was not upgraded. Kenneth Dixon is coming back from injury and suspension, but it remains to be seen if John Harbaugh will trust him. Read more: http://walterfootball.com/offseason2018bal.php#ixzz5QA1BU1jx Our defense could have a very good day against Flacco, who is prone to turnovers, and a less than dominant run game. Again, this is not the 2012 Ravens, and certainly not the 2000 Ravens. It is a middle of the pack team hoping to get to the playoffs, and no expectations of a SB run.
NewEraBills Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 We'll see but I don't see us Running or passing all that well against the Ravens. I just hope we don't get shut out. That's exactly how much faith I have in our offense. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Let the Ravens talk. They said the Bills were afraid to start Josh Allen. I hope we walk away with a road win
Happy Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: We'll see but I don't see us Running or passing all that well against the Ravens. I just hope we don't get shut out. That's exactly how much faith I have in our offense. I hear you, and I may be an optimist. Our offense, especially the Oline, showed little in preseason. Maybe we didn't see then what we'll see on Sunday and we're not quite as bad as it appears...I hope.
eball Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Run game "wizard" Greg Roman is on the Baltimore sideline. I think the Bills need to be far more concerned with defending the run than the pass. That said, this Ravens team is no juggernaut. They may very well win and shut down the Bills' offense, but I don't think they're putting up more than 13 points of offense without help from their D or ST.
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