aristocrat Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:59 PM, Mickey said: There is value to that, no doubt, but at some point you have to take the plunge and live with the kind of mistakes rookies make, have always made and always will make. You learn best by doing, not by watching. I don't disagree with starting Nate but I think Allen needs to start sooner rather than later unless by some miracle Nate develops into a franchise guy. Expand I agree. Allen needs to get in there but he needs to be the starter for the next 18 years. Slow playing is a safe move to see what this team is about.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:25 PM, Binghamton Beast said: I guess one would hope a 7th overall pick could beat out a 5th rounder from the year prior. Expand Not when the 7th overall pick is considered a project QB that needs some time. 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 1:04 PM, YoloinOhio said: Good point by Wawrow on the AJ trade Expand Follow the process to success!
SoCoBills Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) If I’m an opposing defense have my guys squatting on any short routes especially outside the numbers for the pick six - combine Petermans velocity with our slow WRs and inability to pass protect and it’s a no brainer - the ball has to be out quick and it doesn’t get there that fast. I like Petermanans rooted for him to start over Tyrod but we have to prove he can throw the ball down the field well to stop the squatting on the timing routes he loves. BUT - can we protect Nate long enough to throw it further down the field?? Edited September 3, 2018 by SoCoBills 1
poblano Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:28 PM, Max Fischer said: How many games before Peterman throws five interceptions? Ravens - 1 Chargers - 0 Vikings - 1 Packers - 2 Titans - 0 Texans - 2 Expand I was asking me how many post before i read something this stupid 1
oldmanfan Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:53 PM, Bobby Hooks said: Not exactly going out on a huge limb. Weird but that almost sounds like you’re actively rooting against a player on your team from succeeding. This fanbase. Expand No, I hope I'm wrong actually. That would mean Peterman is playing well. But Allen has physical skills Nate will never have.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 1:05 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Not when the 7th overall pick is considered a project QB that needs some time. Expand The 3rd preseason game against the Bengals made this decision for the coaching staff when Allen was slow getting the ball out. 1
aristocrat Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 1:03 PM, crack said: that's not true. Ben played during his first year and won OROTY Expand He didn’t start the year. Came in a few games in.
dabills21 Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:36 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Ben did start 13 games in his rookie season. Expand After Tommy Maddox got injured...
WhoTom Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:53 PM, Bronxbomber21 said: Brady & Rodgers were behind two HOF's Expand When did Bledsoe get in?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:21 AM, DaaBills said: I tried that. Probably my stupid phone but it would not load. Thanks for the heads up. Expand So did I. The url ended in nonstandard html is my only guess. Long Live the Hypnotoad
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 1:06 PM, SoCoBills said: If I’m an opposing defense have have them squatting on any short route for the pick six - combine Petermans velocity with our slow WRs and it’s a no brainer. I like Peterman but we have to prove he can throw the ball down the field well to stop the squatting on the timing routes he loves. BUT - can we protect Nate long enough to throw it further down the field?? Expand Probably explains Ray-Ray and Foster making the team...just to stretch the opponents secondary
oldmanfan Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:54 PM, Mickey said: So he will never need game experience? First team snaps? At some point you have to hand the wheel over to him knowing he is going to bounce off a couple of curbs before he gets it right. Expand At some point is true. Not just right now
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 E hhh, I'm pulling for Allen but this seemed most likely. After the O-line let him get steamrolled in Week 3, I am ok with watching Peterman getting his sh*t kicked in during the few rough opening week. Ravens, Chargers and Vikings have some great defenses, so I would rather Allen not be thrown to the wolves and have Peterman be our sacrificial lamb. If I'm wrong, hey, I'll enjoy some early wins. 2
Hebert19 Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:38 PM, Bills Fan of Maryland said: Sad thing is, he is set up for failure behind a porous OL and receivers who can't separate. 8 in the box, max rush....he gonna die! Expand Can't do both well. They will try and stop shady which is exactly what a daboll offense needs. Quick passes and use TEs up the seam.
hemma Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:54 PM, Mickey said: So he will never need game experience? First team snaps? At some point you have to hand the wheel over to him knowing he is going to bounce off a couple of curbs before he gets it right. Expand Sure he will. When we get up by 28-6 in the 4th, we put in Allen for mop-up. He learns on the job while Peterman rests his Golden Arm. 4
LEBills Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 This was really the only move to make. Give Peterman a shot because he played well enough and you can always go from him to Allen down the road. It is much tougher to pull Allen for Peterman down the road if Allen struggles. 1
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 1:08 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: The 3rd preseason game against the Bengals made this decision for the coaching staff when Allen was slow getting the ball out. Expand Of course. Before that game 80% of the board wanted Allen to start including myself. Truth is we needed the Bengals game to happen because it showed us that Allen just isn't ready yet where as Peterman has learned to make quick reads and move in and out of the pocket. 1
poblano Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:35 PM, YoloinOhio said: Let’s go Nate! It’s the intelligent decision. He had a solid preseason, has chemistry with KB, and you can move to Allen at some point in the season if needed. If you start off with Allen and need to make a change it’s much tougher. Expand
Mickey Posted September 3, 2018 Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 12:56 PM, PromoTheRobot said: What's so wrong about not rushing a kid? Being an NFL QB is not a skill people are born with. Expand Nothing. But that is not what I am saying. If the standard is "best chance of winning" well, there will almost always be a more experienced QB available who would give us a better chance at winning than a rookie who has been doing nothing but holding a clipboard and running the scout team. Ever teach a kid to drive? You don't start out on the thruway but you don't have him driving in parking lots for a year either. At some point, even though his driving skills aren't the "best" you have to give him the wheel. Allen isn't ready for the thruway at this point so I don't have an issue starting Nate. But at some point, sooner rather than later, Allen needs to start even if Peterman gives us a 3% "better chance" of winning. Frankly, if "better chance of winning" is the standard, I don't know why Tyrod is in Cleveland. I think its going to work out fine anyway. I don't believe in magical transformations in one season so I fully expect Nate to struggle. He is not exactly a veteran himself and the line looks awful. At some point Allen will get his shot.
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