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  On 9/1/2018 at 8:26 PM, dezertbill said:

Makes perfect sense.

 

That comeback vs. Bears showed Gruden the type of competitor he really is.  He is way better than Cook or EJ.

 

Solid guy playing in a situation where he could be asked to play meaningful games if Carr gets hurt.

 

Glad for the kid.  All the best to him.

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The comeback was nice to see, but he was God-awful in that game and even with the comeback stats padding the overall game stats, they were  still horrible.

 

 

  On 9/1/2018 at 8:27 PM, Peace Frog said:

That's true.  Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor, and Kyle Williams all turned out to be horrible 5th round picks.   ?

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There are always statistical deviants but that is not predictable.

 

The general assumption that a 5th will get you nothing is accurate, almost always.

 

 

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  On 9/1/2018 at 8:25 PM, Fadingpain said:

Huh.  Surprised he could get a 5th for him, not that a 5th is worth much.

 

AJ and EJ!  Now they need some QB named "MJ" and they are all set in Raider Land! 

 

 

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Tell that to Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor, and Kyle Williams.

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We must have set a record for dead cap space. It's like the early Snyder era Redskins, when they signed every free agent who was 35+ years old to a 5 year deal, only to cut them 8 months later.

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  On 9/1/2018 at 8:28 PM, Fadingpain said:

The comeback was nice to see, but he was God-awful in that game and even with the comeback stats padding the overall game stats, they were  still horrible.

 

 

There are always statistical deviants but that is not predictable.

 

The general assumption that a 5th will get you nothing is accurate, almost always.

 

 

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Just like the general assumption that getting nothing for a player you do not want anyway will get you nothing is accurate ALWAYS. 

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  On 9/1/2018 at 8:27 PM, Peace Frog said:

That's true.  Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor, and Kyle Williams all turned out to be horrible 5th round picks.   ?

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Both can be true, you know.  The probability is against a 5th round pick becoming a solid starter, much less a star - something like 1 in 15or 1 in 20.

But every year there are ~36-38 picks in the 5th round, so every year 1-2 players drafted in the 5th will turn out well or even become stars.

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  On 9/1/2018 at 8:28 PM, Fadingpain said:

The comeback was nice to see, but he was God-awful in that game and even with the comeback stats padding the overall game stats, they were  still horrible.

 

 

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It wasn't his best first half.  But he had 5 throws that were to avoid a sack or kill the clock, a number of drops, and WRs that ran horrible routes on some pretty decent throws.  And Chucky loves that grit.  

 

For a back up role he is a solid guy to have.  Happy we got a fifth for him.

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  On 9/1/2018 at 8:28 PM, Fadingpain said:

The comeback was nice to see, but he was God-awful in that game and even with the comeback stats padding the overall game stats, they were  still horrible.

 

 

There are always statistical deviants but that is not predictable.

 

The general assumption that a 5th will get you nothing is accurate, almost always.

 

 

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First of all, a 5th could be packaged with other picks/players for something way better.  Draft capital, no?  Also, Mark Brunell, Herschel Walker, Zach Thomas, Rodney Harrison, and Kevin Greene might disagree with you.  

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  On 9/1/2018 at 8:31 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Both can be true, you know.  The probability is against a 5th round pick becoming a solid starter, much less a star - something like 1 in 15or 1 in 20.

But every year there are ~36-38 picks in the 5th round, so every year 1-2 players drafted in the 5th will turn out well or even become stars.

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And a 5th can be packaged.  I'm all down with building draft capital and a 5th will be quite handy in next year's draft.

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