3rdnlng Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Let’s just end this. You arent getting my point. I’m barely grasping yours. It really doesn’t matter. I think NFL teams overvalue draft picks and undervalue proven veterans. Thats the extent of it. Now that's a fair enough statement but not what you were saying earlier. First round draft picks are extremely valuable and can be used to obtain proven veterans or top notch prospects. You inferred that they were not very important because they might not be used properly. That's not the problem with the draft pick itself but with the person choosing who to pick with the draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The Bears are going to be good. That defense has a ton of playmakers and youth. Raiders on the other hand are going to be a dumpster fire during Grudens tenure. He should have stayed in the booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Well I guess so since they got the deal done. "No other team seemed willing to part ways with that much draft capital" NO KIDDING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The Bills will still have to deal with him on November 4th at New Era. We beat him last year. We were never giving up 2 1st round picks or paying him QB money. Yes it would have been amazing to have such a great pass-rusher but we have to move on. It all would have cost way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, mannc said: Not what you said It is exactly what I said Multiple times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: From some of the Raiders players' comments I wonder if that team implodes. Yea it’s not easy for the room when their best player gets traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Now that's a fair enough statement but not what you were saying earlier. First round draft picks are extremely valuable and can be used to obtain proven veterans or top notch prospects. You inferred that they were not very important because they might not be used properly. That's not the problem with the draft pick itself but with the person choosing who to pick with the draft pick. My whole point was the Bills weren’t going to trade the picks for Mack because they were afraid to give them up. And I feel like most of the time we just waste them anyway and I think they should be more willing to trade them for proven talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Let’s just end this. You arent getting my point. I’m barely grasping yours. It really doesn’t matter. I think NFL teams overvalue draft picks and undervalue proven veterans. Thats the extent of it. well said buddy, I concur... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 hours ago, ******* said: To the Bears Pfew, dodged that bullet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: love all the people who danced on the Mack threads here for weeks saying he would never be traded, he would be tagged, we were all stupid, etc. This board is filled with "that guy" and "that guy" responds in that manner to everything. As an aside, I find it funny that some Bills fans have probably now dedicated more time to this thread and the issue of what is going to happen to Mack than actually watching a Bills game. I'm talking about the 4th pre-season game, admittedly, against the Bears, and it was a **** show for almost all of it, but still. I find it really weird that a Bills fan who lives at this forum would then not actually watch a Bills game, but chime in over and over about Khalil F-ing Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 hours ago, AmishRifle said: I’m still left scratching my head on why Gruden would let him go. Bears! Talk about a dark horse winning the race. didn't trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: From some of the Raiders players' comments I wonder if that team implodes. I hope so. I think Gruden is an overrated snake oil salesman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I hope so. I think Gruden is an overrated snake oil salesman. they may trade everybody out like we did to get rid of the cancers/malcontents Edited September 1, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: My whole point was the Bills weren’t going to trade the picks for Mack because they were afraid to give them up. And I feel like most of the time we just waste them anyway and I think they should be more willing to trade them for proven talent. That wasn't your point at all. You clearly stated that 1st round draft picks weren't all that important. I thought that was a rather ridiculous statement when in the same paragraph you stated that mid round draft pics could bring good players. I haven't seen this regime too afraid to give up draft pics and I certainly haven't seen them just waste them anyway. I'll be sitting on pins and needles waiting for your latest revision of the statement I first objected to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I respect teams going big. This might pay off long term for the Raiders but I would hate it if I was a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: they may trade everybody out like we did to get rid of the cancers/malcontents What if gruden is the cancer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, aristocrat said: What if gruden is the cancer? Well he ain't going nowhere, so ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, aristocrat said: What if gruden is the cancer? Gruden does have that arrogance about him. He always has. I think you see the Raiders end up in the toilet within 2 years and Gruden resigning his position within 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said: ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, aristocrat said: What if gruden is the cancer? If the Bills had hired Gruden, that would have been the ultimate test for me, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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